Office Environments
I remember the most exciting thing about starting my career when I was in my early 20s (aka 1998) was going shopping for nice clothes. I finally had a reason to wear nice business suits, and could shop at nice stores like FILENES, Macy's and Express, etc.
Sometime later, the office environments allowed jeans on Friday as long as you dressed them up with nice shoes and shirts. I once got a best dressed certificate at a company party. I used to separate my work clothes, gym clothes, and party clothes.
These days, the office environments, especially in call centers, have become so lax that everyone dresses in gym clothes or goth concert clothes and a lot of young employees don't even bother showering. I recently found out some people go down stairs to do a quick workout in the employee gym, and don't even shower after they exercise.
I'm 44 and I'm so turned off by it all. I feel like we've given up on office professionalism.
I had made a decision to live a healthy life, to work hard and dress sharp to impress but for some reason, younger generations aren't following this lead.
I wonder where the laziness is coming ....it's a problem with everyone. Men are doing it too.
My last employer was full of younger people who turned the office into a college setting. It was an open office concept so I heard and saw everything and it wasn't pretty.
Aside the fact that management always buys junk food as an incentive on Fridays (pizza days don't count ha ha)....they decided to do a fun day once a month. I thought it was voluntary - but it turns out you'd get docked points on your final review if you didn't participate in things like PAJAMA Day. I'm sorry but ....when did wearing your pajama to work day make it to the job description?
Am I the only one that feels this way?
The worst part was the alcohol. Management served booze once and then it became a thing - every month. At first, started at 4 and we were allowed one drink. And then as time moved on, they started serving around noon and I know for a fact that some people would keep drinking during the day -some had as much as four or five.
I spent three years working in sports journalism and I thought sports journalist dressed more professionally - and didn't drink at all until after the games. I digress.
I had to quit my last job because the lack of professionalism was unacceptable.
I'm a little nervous to get back out there because I feel like I now have to be stern with my expectations.
I do not want to be around alcohol during the work day - not until I walk out of the office.
I'm also finding myself turn down jobs because of a 'laid back' environment as I fear it'll turn into a sloppy environment.
I'm all for pizza and ice cream days and casual dress days - but am I wrong for looking to work in a more professionally conservative office?
How do I talk about my previous job without sounding mean or unprofessional?
Hello Genevieve. I agree wholeheartedly with the advice given to you previously - don't discuss negatives about your prior employer with a prospective new employer even if they happen to be true. Job fit is one of the most important qualities in a mutually beneficial employment relationship. I know it is not easy, but I am sure that you will find the type of company culture that matches your professional values and expectations. Call Center environments can be especially taxing. As a high-turnover business, companies tend to provide social perks as an incentive to keep employees. Maybe non-profit organizations would be a good avenue for your to pursue professionally. They could use the skills of a seasoned and hungry employee but also have a more focused mission and dedication to be of service to their particular cause. Best of luck to you as you pursue your next venture. Go get 'em!
Working in the software industry for most of my career, this is the type of environment I've become accustomed to. The hours are incredibly flexible, the dress code is very relaxed and the offices are stocked with food and snacks, alcohol and games. In my office there is always wine & beer in the fridge, a room with a foosball table and another with an X-Box.
But at the same time, the employees tend to work long, hard hours - the games rooms are used reasonably to take a mental break or burn off steam, alcohol is consumed socially and responsibly and there are days of the week where a social time is set aside to play games and hang out.
It's probably not an environment for everyone but I've come to quite like the amenities provided and the laid-back environment. I do like to dress-up when I go into the office, but I'll admit that after so many years of working in software, I don't own as many nice pieces as I used to.
But back to your question. When speaking of your previous job(s), I don't think it's necessary to bring the environment of your own offices into the conversations. Stick with the facts - the work you did, the role you had. The kind of role you're looking for. You could state that you prefer to work in a conservative, professional environment (stated in such a way as looking forward, not looking back and slagging the places you did work).
Thank you for your response! - G
I am sorry that this is what you are seeing out there- it is not everywhere! Larger, more corporate environments remain professional, from what I have seen, just more black versus navy blue! LOL . Hang in there and try to get on-site interviews where you can observe the atmosphere. I have never heard of being docked for not participating! What if you need to collect your children from daycare of something after hours? Strange...
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I am in disbelief that they service alcohol during work hours. That would be a huge liability on the company if people left there and got into a wreck. We do have happy hours at my company, and if the company provides drinks we are usually limited to a certain amount of servings. I am 45 and do enjoy both dressing up and casual day with jeans and a nice top. I agree with the too casual atmosphere; however, it's not just tied to the younger generation where I work. We have older men who also come in in sweats, dirty t-shirts and greasy hair that is not combed. Older women in sweat pants and crocs.
Yeah, I agree that a lot of people of older generations are dressing down too much. I simply don't understand it.