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Anonymous
11/11/20 at 5:53PM UTC
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Actions Speak Louder Than Words?

I have been in my current role for several years. A few years ago, I expressed interest in a new role. I told that I was qualified for the role, and that it would be good for my career development, but that I was too critical in my current role to move. A similar role recently opened and there was initially support for making the move, but some managers have expressed the same concern. The role was posted internally and now subject to several rounds of interviews, which I understand is not normal. It feels like the verbal support is being undermined by these actions. I've volunteered to support/ be a resource even after I've changed roles (and developed a growth plan for my backfills and a coverage plan), but the decision process keeps getting extended. Is it time to look for external opportunities if I want to grow beyond my current role?

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Rosie Moua
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Process Consultant | Project Management
11/13/20 at 2:10PM UTC
I've experienced managers like this before and I have to say that if you feel like you want to move to advance your career, learn new things, or any reason that is for yourself, then do it! I use to think that I was valued when they said that but really, if they do care for you then they should be developing you and allowing you to grow in ways that you want to. Since then I make career moves on my terms and when I know I am ready to move on. I still do regret it and have changes roles 4 times now in 7 years and in the role I always wanted when I came to my company. Not that I am finished but I made a goal to be in a role in the things I wanted to do. If the company doesn't support it then yes it may be time to move on externally.
Little But Fierce
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Versatile leader in New York City area
11/12/20 at 2:41PM UTC
It certainly seems that they don't realize they are putting themselves at risk of losing you completely by denying you a role that you are interested in. I'm not sure how the internal application process works at your organization, but have you actually applied for the role (understandable if you have felt too discouraged)? Formally applying would force them to make a decision and also let you know if they are really serious about blocking your move. If they do formally block it, I'd seriously consider moving on unless you see a reason to be patient with them (which from your post, I don't see, but you know the situation best). I've actually had something similar happen to me twice. Once it was without my knowing - someone went behind my back and convinced an internal hiring manager that I was too critical to leave my current role - but I didn't know they had done that, I was just told I didn't get the job and then I agonized for months over why. Years later I found out I was totally qualified but was blocked. Another time, it was because my VP didn't want to lose my headcount, so she blocked my move to another dept which would have taken my headcount with me. I mention this to let you know you're not alone. You'd think managers and decision-makers would know better.
Anonymous
11/13/20 at 2:05PM UTC
Thank you! It's always helpful to know that you're not alone. I did formally apply and I have been taking the process very seriously (basically like an external interview - including a cover letter, doing research, speaking to others where appropriate to understand the needs of business the new role would support, etc). The process timeline (8+ internal interviews) keeps being extended and there are still a number of candidates in the running, but you're right that eventually a decision will be made. (And while I may not like the outcome, knowing the answer will be key to figuring out the next step.) Given how many internal candidates are involved in the process, it seems hard to imagine that there wouldn't be some disappointment. On my end, I think that it will be hard to be patient/continue to trust if this doesn't work out, but my goal is to have an open mind about alternatives while starting to look at what else might be out there.
Julia Abell
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11/12/20 at 2:20PM UTC
That sounds like a very frustrating situation. You might want to be sure that what you think is happening is actually what is really happening. Can you set up a time with your manager to discuss this and how it is making you feel? Maybe there are some other things happening that you aren't aware of....cuts to budget, etc. At the very least, it is an opportunity to remind your manager of your contributions, your desire to advance in your career, and your ability to handle these types of situations like a professional. However, if what you think is reality is actually reality, you may need to leave in order to advance.
Anonymous
11/13/20 at 2:09PM UTC
Thank you! I've spoken to both my manager and my mentor a few times about my goals and excitement about the new role, while gently sharing that I'm ready to move on (internally!) from my current role. (I have not been direct about the fact that I would be ready to leave the company if they kept me in my current role.) My manager let me know that the internal posting was coming, but I haven't heard (but also have not asked) why the internal interview process is so much longer than it has been in the past. I do think that it would help me to know this, but I'm having trouble finding a good way to ask and worry about sounding presumptive or entitled.
Joanna Giordano
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HBO HR experience. Resume/Job & Health coach.
12/25/20 at 4:05AM UTC
depending how corporate your company is, go to HR. Know anyone in Recruiting/TA? They can pass the message on that you might leave if this is not addressed. Empl Relations: You could raise why they are giving you backhanded compliments. ie holding you back while telling something "is coming" and complimenting you as critical to smooth it over. Try Talent Management: maybe they can help mold your current/future role. They should tell Comp or Perks that if they cannot promote you, then they should do something to retain you. Something that will add to your total package. e.g. more PTO, professional development, or whatever is important to you.
Anonymous
12/28/20 at 2:14AM UTC
Thank you!
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