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You Are More Qualified Than You Think

Job search strategy: Determine your next role and go after it strategically and authentically.

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Lynn Juve
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Get unstuck, pivot and negotiate your salary.
12/02/19 at 7:33PM UTC
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You Are More Qualified Than You Think

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Welcome new members! We are here to help you! What brings you here and what you are hoping to get out of this group?

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User deleted comment on 12/04/19 at 12:59AM UTC
Veronica Sharkey
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Perpetually curious project/ops coordinator
12/03/19 at 7:53PM UTC
I recently moved to be closer to my family (and left a rather toxic work environment in the process), so I'm here for help with the job search, as well as to keep learning and growing and help others.
Kathy Van Duzer
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Creative, Analytical, PR and Marketing
12/03/19 at 7:21PM UTC
What about salary requirements when asked on a new job application? I hate pigeonholing myself when I'm open to many industries and jobs and my range is quite broad. Employers would make it all much easier if they posted their salary range for each job.
Lynn Juve
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12/03/19 at 7:32PM UTC
I completely agree! I believe that it would be to their benefit to post the salary range and it would assure us that we are going to a company that cares about pay equality. The way to deal with this is to highball it. Go online do you best research both through sites like glassdoor and more comprehensive sites like payscale and figure out what you think the range is. Then ask for 10% more. Every single time that I have done this or a client has done it, the recruiter lets you know if you are above the range. Then you can say that you are certainly willing to stay within the range pending the benefits package.
Kathleen Benson
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Perceptive scientist and a natural teacher
12/04/19 at 1:14AM UTC
I'd like to think that it's in a company's best interest to be transparent and that their motivation stems from fairness but it is often the case that you're put on the spot. This puts a candidate in a weak position - if you highball they may outright disqualify you and if you lowball then you may substantially hurt yourself. This is something that needs to change if there will ever be pay equality. Most of the jobs I've been applying for don't state a compensation and I feel I'm being put in a position where I can only lose by answering the pay question versus (trying) to turn the question around.
Charlene Tiedemann
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Skilled Visual and UX Designer
12/03/19 at 7:15PM UTC
For the past year I have been re-tooling to transition into UX design. I recently accepted a position as Art Director for a small media company where I will be able to do some UX work for them while art directing. Over the past few years, I've been rethinking my career. As I've worked contract jobs and freelanced, I have discovered that I'm interested in business strategy, digital/UX work, mentorship, and management in addition to my visual skills. So I'm here to keep the ball rolling... keep myself alert and open to new possibilities, and keep growing.
Lynn Juve
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Get unstuck, pivot and negotiate your salary.
12/03/19 at 7:29PM UTC
This sounds great! It seems like you know what you like and what you are good at, which will serve you well! I am excited to see how it unfolds and am here to help!
Kim Warner
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On a mission to clean up the fashion business...
12/03/19 at 7:10PM UTC (Edited)
Pivoting within the fashion industry ... to try to help companies implement meaningful and actionable sustainability initiatives. I don't know exactly what that looks like yet, but I know the industry very well, and it's time for a paradigm shift!
Lynn Juve
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Get unstuck, pivot and negotiate your salary.
12/03/19 at 7:28PM UTC
As a pivoter myself, I believe you can bring a lot to your new role! Thanks for being here!
Kim Warner
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On a mission to clean up the fashion business...
12/03/19 at 8:24PM UTC
Thank you, Lynn. This has been a very helpful webinar and I look forward to participation in this group. Although I have a deep apparel industry background, I have been away for a few years (It's always something!) I thought about changing industries, but I kept coming back to fashion. Some of my family and personal struggles with health led me to this pivot. And although I am facing some of the obstacles mentioned--age bias, geographically separated from industry center--I'm committed to moving forward.
Wendy Avenius
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Brand Management Professional
12/03/19 at 7:08PM UTC
I'm pivoting in my career after 20+ years of doing something else and am learning to navigate LinkedIn and leveraging my network, as I haven't had to interview in over 20 years. Hoping to gain some support, as well as meet new people here and help others during their searches.
Anonymous
12/05/19 at 5:33PM UTC
The company I worked for laid off thousands earlier this year. After 21 years watching acquisitions, mergers, and dealing with crazy managerial decisions, I made the decision to volunteer for severance and secured a transition package. This has been helpful financially while I pin-point what's next. Listening to people's frustrations with LinkedIn, HR interviews, etc. has me wondering what's the best way to navigate this new world of job hunting. I'm technically savvy and always able to secure a position with more responsibility and compensation through my network but now I'm stumped as that network was affected by job loss themselves or are afraid associating with unemployed people is catching.
BeaBoss706386
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12/03/19 at 7:17PM UTC (Edited)
I am in the same situation. I left my job after 19.5 years and now looking for a position beyond what I did before. LinkedIN sends me cashier jobs ....very frustrating I have my MBA.
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12/03/19 at 7:08PM UTC
Our company is facing lay-offs and I am concerned I could be in the firing line. I have always fallen into jobs, almost always through networks. But this time I want to take deliberate steps to getting the position that truly excites me. I just didn't know where to start. This session offered some great, achievable first steps.
Lynn Juve
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Get unstuck, pivot and negotiate your salary.
12/03/19 at 7:27PM UTC
I always like to start with leveraging your current network first! Get that little army of people working for you!
Anonymous
12/03/19 at 7:07PM UTC
Interviewing recently, I was asked about the salary range I would be comfortable with and asked for too much based on Glassdoor salaries I had seen for that role. What is the best way to tell the recruiter I am willing to start at a lower rate without looking too desperate? Getting my feet on the door is more important to me right now as I know I'll have the ability to grow into the role I want overtime.
Lynn Juve
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Get unstuck, pivot and negotiate your salary.
12/03/19 at 7:22PM UTC
Starting high is great! How did you know you asked for too much? Did the recruiter respond with the range? It's not a fair question because when you ask that, you don't know the benefits package.
Balanced561043
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12/03/19 at 8:24PM UTC
Hi Lynn! Right after my response, the recruiter told me the position offered around 20K lower than what I was looking for. I told her I was still very interested in the position and would like to move forward with the process understanding this could be the beginning of something great. She said she would contact other recruiters who may like to interview me and I have not heard back yet. Do you think it is okay for me to follow up with her and say that I am open to start at a lower salary because I believe in the company and on my ability to grow with it? I want to be considered for the role and don't want to look desperate because she knows I don't have a job at the moment. I recently moved to a new area and it's been challenging landing an interview to begin with so I don't want to lose this opportunity.
Anonymous
12/03/19 at 7:06PM UTC
This item from the group description really hits home: "- You often are looking for a new role when you are feeling worst about yourself such as in a toxic work environment." How do you present your best self when you're feeling truly beaten down by your present situation? Thanks!
Kelli Femrite
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Blogger for Working Mom Career Support.
01/07/20 at 1:47AM UTC
This is my situation entirely. My work environment is so toxic I have to build in wellness to my day in order to survive.
Lynn Juve
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Get unstuck, pivot and negotiate your salary.
12/03/19 at 7:21PM UTC
This happened to me! I still have a hard time talking about it. I should have been at the height of my career, making more money than I ever dreamed of as a high school teacher, and I couldn't get through the day without crying. This is a topic I try to address often, but it's the hardest because there is no easy answer. I looked for others around me for support. I knew I needed to get out as fast as possible. I exercised. I leaned on my friends. I asked for help. I am here for you. Please feel free to write me a personal message and share more.
Rebecca Schlanger
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Business Transformation| Organizational Change
12/03/19 at 7:06PM UTC
Thank you so much for the webinar today! It's incredibly useful to get another perspective on the (sometimes torturous) job-hunting process, and no doubt we all learned some new techniques for going after our dream jobs. For me, I'm hoping to learn more ways to get more eyeballs on my resume & LinkedIn profile ... leading to (ideally) a new job!
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There are challenges that making looking for a job harder than ever. - Job Descriptions are written from the 1970s so it's hard to know what you are qualified for. - Most jobs are filled with the hiring manager's network, so it can be hard to break in when you are new to an industry or geographical area. - You are told to sell yourself in a way that doesn't feel authentic. - You often are looking for a new role when you are feeling worst about yourself such as in a toxic ...Read more

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Welcome! If you are here because you are looking for a new role AND are willing to help others, you have come to the right place. Please review these guidelines before you post. Thank you for helping us keep things running smoothly! The most important thing to keep in mind: We are here to support each other. If someone asks for advice, jump in and give it! Keep it relevant and encouraging. Look for these weekly posts: Tuesday ROLL CALL where we get to know each ...Read more
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