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What questions do you have from today's webinar?
Do you have a question that went unanswered it today's webinar? Post it here! I will answer all of them that come in the next 48 hours!
Sheena FlanaganAdministrative Assistant looking for work
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12/04/19 at 4:45PM UTC
I've been looking for work in another state and so far I only apply to jobs where I am 90-99% qualified for the job because I reason that they are more likely to be interested in me that way. However, I haven't heard back on a single job. Would you recommend trying to apply for jobs that I'm not as qualified for but my experience kind of relates?
Lynn JuveGet unstuck, pivot and negotiate your salary.
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12/04/19 at 5:55PM UTC
When you apply cold online, it only has a 10% success rate. That is when you are qualified- because being qualified doesn't really have much to do with it. The majority of hiring managers hire from their own networks. Start talking to everyone you know and find out if they have any contacts at all in the new area. Ask each person for their advice and if they don't offer it, ask if there is someone else they might introduce you to in the new area. Be clear that you simply trying to get to know people in the new area, and it's ok if they person that they intro you to doesn't have hiring power. You will also want to do some heavy Linkedin and FairyGodBoss networking!
Sheena FlanaganAdministrative Assistant looking for work
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12/05/19 at 5:30PM UTC
Thank you Lynn! I have been trying to find networking connections on LinkedIn but sometimes there just aren't any available in the new location. I'll do some searching on FairyGodBoss and see if I can find anybody. :-)
Lynn JuveGet unstuck, pivot and negotiate your salary.
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12/05/19 at 7:45PM UTC
I bet if you ask around to the people that you know and old connections of yours, you will find at least one person that lives in the new area. I realized that I had one connection in Seattle when was moving here by checking Facebook. This was the woman I hadn't spoken to in 10 years and she referred me and I got the job. Put a post up asking this group as well! What city is it?
Wendy AveniusBrand Management Professional
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12/04/19 at 4:20PM UTC
How do you suggest finding recruiters to work with in area of expertise (Marketing for me). I'm reaching out to my network and searching social media sites, but not getting much response, so want to add recruiters into mix, as I know not all jobs are posted on social media. Thanks.
Lynn JuveGet unstuck, pivot and negotiate your salary.
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12/04/19 at 5:52PM UTC
Working with recruiters has been one of the least effective strategies for my clients. You say you aren't getting much response, so it sounds like you may not be talking to those who you are closest to. Arrange 5 meetings with people who care about your success- it doesn't matter if they are in your industry. Ask for their advice. (Write it down, but sift through and find the gems later.) And if they don't offer it right away, ask if there is someone they can introduce you to. The key is that they often will think you are only looking for introductions to marketing hiring professionals. Tell them you are looking to get to know more professionals in your city and you would like to meet with anyone who is a mover or shaker.
Rinse and repeat with all 5 of your contacts. The goal? Turn these originally 5 meetings until 25- a string of 5 for each original meeting. It sounds like a lot of work, because it is. do you remember my story about Emily from yesterday's webinar? She did this and she got her first Director title, her first paid role in two years and she beat out 160 other candidates for that role.
Rebecca SchlangerBusiness Transformation| Organizational Change
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12/04/19 at 3:26PM UTC
You mentioned during the webinar yesterday that it's OK to reach out to contacts to whom we haven't spoken in ages... What's a good way to start those conversations? I find it a little awkward to jump right in, but it's going to be clear that I'm reaching out to ask for something from them. What if I don't have anything notable to offer them, as a soft introduction?
Lynn JuveGet unstuck, pivot and negotiate your salary.
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12/04/19 at 5:45PM UTC
Put yourself if their shoes- would you welcome an email like this one? Your instincts are spot on- don't be in authentic, you are there to ask for help. When I reached out to my contact, I acknowledged how long it had been, said that I noticed she was living in Seattle and asked for advice. People LOVE to give advice. We kept it all over facebook messenger, which looking back was probably much more convenient for her than a phone call. If it's someone you had a relationship with, you don't have to offer anything in return. If they are willing to help, them know that you are also there for them, otherwise you will pay it forward.
Sarah LarsonImproving lives by implementing research.
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12/04/19 at 12:53AM UTC
How do you have a salary negotiation and reach market value when changing jobs within your organization? For example, a friend of mine received a huge promotion, skipped two levels in the hierarchy but since they were already an employee the company/HR stated that there was a cap on the percentage they could give for a promotion, e.g. 10%. This leaves them drastically under market value, how does one handle this when they love the organization and the people but has to live paycheck to paycheck?
Lynn JuveGet unstuck, pivot and negotiate your salary.
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12/04/19 at 5:42PM UTC
Ug! This is horrible and unfortunately it is the norm is small/medium size organizations who have not established set ranges for each role. Research shows that it would be economically advantageous for the company to give a large promotion to keep a valuable employee, but this is more about psychology. The person who wins any negotiation is the person who cares the least. The company knows how much your friend made and they knew they had leverage, so they took it.
My friend Celia had this exact thing happen to her when we both worked at the same company. A director of another team recruited her telling her the new role would be 30k more than she was making. When she got the job and the written offer, it was only 4k more than her current salary. She declined. The Director was bitter towards her. 8 months later after the company established set ranges got the job with the big pay bump. She used her leverage. This is not common.
We (and I say we because I have had these feelings) want to be recognized and appreciated. We have a relationship with the people and organization that we have given so much of our lives to. But often when it comes down to it, they aren't going to give us what we are hoping for. So we vote with our feet.
There is a silver lining- when they let you do a much higher level job for under market value, they are training you for your promotion...at another company.
Sarah LarsonImproving lives by implementing research.
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12/04/19 at 10:30PM UTC
Thank you so much for the candid response. Yes, it's definitely a 'we' as I have been in this bubble too. Not as bad, from a promised 20k to 15k with a promised bonus at 6m of 6k (that ultimately was "forgotten," in that my supervisor "forgot" they ever mentioned it).
Regardless, I sent this response to them and I hope it gives them the boost they need to use their vote.
I really appreciate your time, thank you so much!
Lynn JuveGet unstuck, pivot and negotiate your salary.
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12/05/19 at 7:49PM UTC
Also feel free to invite them to join the group!
drivera4Looking for remote work
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12/03/19 at 8PM UTC
What do you suggest when you do the Quick Qualification Test and answer “Yes” to both questions and apply knowing that your skillset and education match the job but you still get the dreaded “thanks but no thanks” automated email? I feel like I can’t get past the ATS and it is frustrating since I see the same job posted again and again. So, I feel like the system they are using to screen applicants is doing them and us a disservice. Any suggestions?
Lynn JuveGet unstuck, pivot and negotiate your salary.
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12/04/19 at 5:33PM UTC
Great question, this is so common! It's confusing because I have found that people get rejected or no call from 90% of the roles they apply for online, even when they are extremely qualified. Know that this is just what happens. I recommend a 3-pronged approach. Spend a third of your time (or more!) leveraging current contacts as we discussed in the webinar yesterday, a third of your time reaching out to people on Linkedin and FairyGodBoss and a third of your time applying online (or less). In part you apply online so that when you reach out to contacts at the organization, you can say you have already done so and it takes the pressure off of them.
drivera4Looking for remote work
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12/04/19 at 9:01PM UTC
Thank you Lynn!
Lynn JuveGet unstuck, pivot and negotiate your salary.
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12/05/19 at 7:50PM UTC
You are welcome!
