Just wanted to share a sort of amusing experience I had yesterday (10/08) while exploring an opportunity.
I went yo hwve a conversation with ybe new GM of a location I last worked in 2016. The Dir of Finance & HR recommended me for a current opening. She's been at the location fo 21 years now, so she's seen talent come and go, so I'm confident in her judgment in wanting me back on the team.
The GM had 2 other people join us, but the curious and hilarious things (hilarious to me), were:
- both people haabsolutely l no experience in my line of work, and genetally has nothing to do with the responsibilities of the role - except NOW they are helping out in that department because of the now commonplace staffing challenges.
- one is 3-momths old in the ENTIRE insustry, so really has no experience in such operations
- the GM and the 3-mth old kept trying to scare me with examples of staffing challenges they have faced since starting the job (all three just started working at the location 3 mths ago!)
- the GM didn't understand the most common saying in our industry... in fact he said "I disagree with that"... something that happens *at least once evey week* in the industry!
The biggest joke (meaning most disturbing aspects) though was:
- the GM asked me what salary I wanted. *GASP* in front of two employees who ARE NOT HR personnel!
- the GM did not have a clue what the salary range was, yet kept insisting that I tell him what I was expecting!
I shut down the conversation when I told him "Mr GM person, that's not how this works," asked if they had any other questioms, thanked all of them for their time.
As soon as i left I called the Dir of Finance & HR and repeated the quastion on salary I was asked. She was flabbergasted to say the least, and said she would let the GM known that questions regarding salary is not something to discuss in a panel interview/conversation setting.
How could he not know that at the GM level? And childish scare tactics from a 3mth old to a vetean of 20 years in the industry is almoat as sad as it is laugable. ?
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Networking is hard and overrated
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Hi, so a year ago my role was restructured out of the executive team and I took another lower role in the organization.
I could of taken redundancy but I stayed. A year on I am so bored, the work is not challenging and I am missing so much working at an exec level. I do ask myself if it is ego but I don't think it is, I love being stretched and love learning and making a difference. My motivation has left me and I have made the decision to emigrate next April. I need to stay for the money till them but I want my mojo back for work. I am not the type of person that can clip the ticket. It is affecting my health as well.
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I’m not sure I’m going to make it
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I’m trying to give myself three months of job searching but I’m hanging on a thread.
I want to quit everyday. I went to see the ADA coordinator today and asked her about the procedure for reasonable accommodation because I need an additional telework day. She seemed visibly uncomfortable. It also happens that she was the one who reached out to me about this job. We’re meeting tomorrow and I don’t plan on telling her all the details, but I’m really unhappy here. I’m just trying to use my frustration as fuel to really look for a job that’s a good fit.
I’d like to ask you all what you would do in this position? The job market is volatile and it’s stressful going through this process yet again.
Thanks for reading this.
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Hello everyone, just want to say I appreciate this platform and all stories I hear that make me feel not alone in all the scary, beautiful, frustrating and fulfilling parts of work.
I do have a question though about job offers. Whats the longest you have had to wait to hear back from a job offer? I am currently in a 2 month stand still with two companies and they from time to time keep calling to ask follow up questions. I just don't understand why. I just want to know if its a lost cause or have people finally got offered jobs they've waited months for. Thank yall!
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I was reading a job description in an email and this was part of the job description:
Job Title: Enterprise Architect
Looking only 10 - 15 years client is not accepting 20+ years of experience candidates
* Minimum of 10+ years of professional technology/ w. concentration in data
* Superior knowledge with the ability to manage and coordinate enterprise information use, corporate data access design, metadata management and distributed/replicated data approach to ensure consistency, timeliness, data lineage, data quality, and availability of master data throughout the enterprise
* Ability to define Data Strategy, Data Governance process; Prior experience in defining Data Strategy is a plus
* Hands-on experience with one or more business intelligence tools or comparable programming and data experience is a plus
"Client is not accepting 20+ years of experience candidates" - Is this considered Age Discrimination?
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