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Raise amount not what you expected
I was promoted a few months ago and was told I would be receiving a raise (% unknown).
I met with my manager a week or two ago and by email requested a 15% increase (but would mentally be ok with 10%).
If my manager comes back with anything lower than that (which she probably will), what’s the best phrase or way to decline what she’s giving and tell her I want more?
Anonymous
10/12/20 at 6:42PM UTC (Edited)
I second what Jacquelyn said in terms of getting it paid retroactively and getting a letter from HR reflecting your new position. A few months ago my partners company was acquired and re-organized and a few people had gotten promotions the month before that were never logged by HR or in the system officially, because of this after the acquisition they were all demoted. You should be getting paid retroactively as well if you were taking on more responsibilities from the time the promotion was effective. If you are asking for more of a raise outline the reasons you think you deserve a bigger raise (highlight how you have been an integral part of your workplace). Be prepared to not get as much of a raise in case the budget was already set but ask how you can get to your goal salary. If you feel you can't get the growth/salary you are looking for at your current company would you consider looking elsewhere? Not sure how your industry is doing right now (some are booming).
Linda
Helping people reach their goals
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10/12/20 at 3:28PM UTC
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Linda Helping people reach their goals
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10/12/20 at 3:29PM UTC
What’s your name & #?
Linda Helping people reach their goals
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10/12/20 at 3:05PM UTC
I’m sorry to hear the management in your company is not giving you the raise you are entitled to. That’s always disappointing.
Have you ever given any thought to supplementing your income? Creating an additional stream of income along side your job?
I’ve been working from home p/t since 2011. I’m happy to show you what I do.
Maybe it will be a good fit for you too.
Best regards
Linda
Anonymous
10/12/20 at 3:09PM UTC
Hi Linda,
I would love to learn more about what you do. I’ve wanted an additional steam of income but time has always been an issue. What’s the best way to connect?
Jacquelyn LloydCoach & HR Consultant
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10/12/20 at 2:28PM UTC
So, you got the promotion a couple of months ago and are now just getting the salary adjustment? That's lame. I would focus on making yourself whole back to the promotional date - and ensuring that's when they "look back" at your last increase. In 2021, you don't want them saying, "A just got a raise in Oct 2020. " I would also ask HR for a new offer letter that reflects your new title and wage rate (retroactively.) This is all standard practice.
Anonymous
10/12/20 at 2:46PM UTC
YES, I am finally getting the salary adjustment I should have gotten in May/June!
They are just moving so slow with everything. (I understand because of COVID).
That’s a good idea about asking HR for a new offer letter.
Anonymous
10/12/20 at 1:32PM UTC
I think, although it may be difficult, that the sheer ability for your company to provide a raise during this time is extraordinary and that should be taken into account. I agree with what many people said above, being the end of the year, there may be a certain dollar amount allocated and this may not be flexible. I would absolutely try and negotiate the best you can, but you may need to initially accept a smaller than preferred raise and talk to your manager about further, non monetary, provisions they can provide. Can they offer more vacation? Flexible hours? Work from Home?
JYJ
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10/12/20 at 1:24PM UTC
Have your list of accomplishments and action you have taken to improve the bottom line and address company pain points. Sometimes we're so good at what we do, it can get taken for granted. You have to be your own advocate. Good luck!
Taryn N
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10/12/20 at 1:26PM UTC (Edited)
For perspective, consider this. Many teams are allocated a budget, some of which is allocated to raises at the year’s end, from a larger pool of money set at the corporate level. Managers have some influence on the budget amounts they receive but more often than not they are constricted by what is ultimately allocated to their teams. It may be disappointing to not receive the increase you expect but bear in mind that managers have to make tough decision of how divi up money into raises and bonuses and they themselves may be disappointed with the resources their team have been given.
Why I mention the above. Once money has been allocated and budgeted, and managers have gone through the process of determining who on their team gets what, it will be very difficult for anyone to adjust the numbers to meet your expressed expectations. Usually, before company money is set aside for raises and bonuses, departments will come together to discuss how money should be allocated. This is the ideal time to express your expectations because this is the time when budgets are most maleable.
I would recommend that you try to think about how you will assert your salary expectations rather than reject a salary increase if it doesn’t meet your expectations. (Rejection of an increase or attempting to negotiate once final numbers have been set could be damaging to your relationship with your manager who may feel that you are ungrateful and regardless of how they feel, may just be powerless to change the numbers.) Doing so will mean that you will have to start thinking proactively rather than waiting for your manager to come up with numbers that will most likely not be easily adjusted once it is presented to you. I would set some time aside to document all the ways you have made meaningful contributions to the team and how you have grown over the past year as well as any supporting information (e.g. comparable salaries for your experience and expertise in the marketplace) that can support your expected increase. When done, reach out to your manager and ask if you could have a conversation about your compensation and growth in the company. In your meeting say that you are aware that raises and bonus discussions will start soon and then present your case.
Hopefully, your manager will be able to come through for you, but if they don’t, be realistic and open to the challenges of budgets especially while we are in the midst of the COVID-19 crisis.
Katie MaloneSocial Media Manager + Mother to two daughter
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10/12/20 at 1PM UTC
Negotiate for yourself for sure. I did not during my last promotion. I received a 12-13% raise, but now a year and a half into the job, I do wish I would’ve asked for more.
Shweta BrahmakshatriyaProject Management Professional from India
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10/12/20 at 12:48PM UTC
Firstly, understand why are you being given this % rise, is it because of budget, or because your manager thinks that this is a justified amount of raise for the additional responsibilities that would be handling.
If its because of budget constraints then its upto you whether you want to accept it or not.
If budget is not the case, then you should highlight the additional responsibilities that would be taking up and justify the raise that you are expecting.
You can also do some research in your industry and come up with avg renumeration for the said role.
All the best for your negotiations:)
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