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Anonymous
07/13/20 at 5:40AM UTC
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Job postings aren't for actual current openings

I've come to the upsetting revelation that some job postings are not for open positions. Reasons I've heard are that the job needs to be publicly posted to show that there was a search, and the position is filled by an internal employee or someone else already in mind; or the company is collecting resumes for later. I think the first reason already existed before covid. And don't get me wrong -- I would be happy to hear that a company was able to retain or call back an employee into a different position -- I just wish it wasn't posted for me to see! The "later" reason doesn't make sense to me either. Why refer to a batch of stale resumes later? Er, that is, if "later" ever comes? I have lost so much sleep applying to jobs and I feel so defeated and unmotivated knowing that some percentage of these were not even actual openings. Doesn't HR know how time-consuming and mentally draining applying for jobs is!! How can they treat job seekers like this? As if we aren't busy enough! The only way I've seen to get around this is to ask. I've had luck ONCE of getting my time saved, not applying to a post for a job that actually wasn't open; my rate of responses from people inside companies is low. I'd love for anyone reading this to tell me I'm wrong, that no dear, every job posting is for an actual opening; or a better way to tell if it is. Desperate and pissed, Anonymous

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Motta
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07/19/20 at 3:15PM UTC
It might suck, but that is the nature of the game. And if HR wants to have some resumes as backup, what is wrong with that? I have gotten some calls from some companies in the past, based on old resumes they had. By then I already had a new job, so wasn't interested, but good to know some folks have me in their lists...
Anonymous
07/19/20 at 3:12PM UTC
This has been the case in tech for at least two decades. Lots of positions posted that are not filled. Often they are posted over and over again.
Anonymous
07/19/20 at 2:23PM UTC
At my company "turn and burn" positions are always posted. There will be an opening sooner rather than later. That may be another reason to shy away from an evergreen post.
Krystin Morgan
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Recruiting Leader & Résumé Writer in Seattle
07/16/20 at 4:58PM UTC
I work in recruiting and can say that I've never seen a fake job posting anywhere I've worked. I definitely don't believe the statistics out there about 80%+ of jobs not being real! What does sometimes happen is that a job is posted to collect applicants to get a head start - if you know you'll be hiring in a month, you might post the job to get the word out early. However, I think companies need to make it clear that it's a "hiring soon" thing vs. "hiring right now."
User deleted comment on 07/19/20 at 4PM UTC
Krista Coutts
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Marketing Professional, Cross-Functional Leader
07/15/20 at 11:22PM UTC
I am right there with you! It is really frustrating and discouraging! But unfortunately, I think that is the time that we are in currently. What is more frustrating to me is seeing great positions, but over 600 candidates vying for that position. How do you break thru?
Chloe Nguyen
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Digital Marketing Strategist
07/14/20 at 11:26PM UTC
This came up on my LinkedIn, quite timely: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/expert-tip-find-hidden-job-market-cayla-dengate/
Steph McDonald
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Recruiter doing cool things at Zapier
07/14/20 at 5:18PM UTC
Good companies will post a job as "evergreen" or a "talent community" which allows them to keep in touch for when jobs open again. Resume farming is real, and I hate it. I would suggest when you find a job on a job board, go directly to the companies page and apply via their site vs the job board. First, it's likely still open, second sometimes job boards scrape jobs from employers pages and post it with wrong information. I just found 20 jobs of mine posted as though they were in India, which they aren't. I always assume good intent, but this almost seems like a scam and can reflect on my company vs the job site. Please feel free to connect with me on LinkedIn (www.linkedin.com/in/greatrecruiter) and I'll help you as best I can! Stay strong.
Anonymous
07/13/20 at 10:36PM UTC
The Mgmt and HR at the global Pharma company I used to work for were bone lazy. They had to externally advertise jobs but couldn't be bothered going through 90+ applications, shortlisting, interviewing etc. They asked employees who they knew...and filled most jobs that way. If external applicants knew this, they'd be devastated they weren't even considered.
Anonymous
07/14/20 at 2:32AM UTC
ME^ I guess it goes back to "it's who you know"...

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