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Sweet Caroline
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08/27/20 at 11:40AM UTC
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It is refreshing to talk about compensation

For the first time in my 20+ year career I ask the question of the recruiter “Are you able to share the compensation range for this role” and not once have they refused to share! When I started job hunting it was taboo to speak of salary until they asked which leads to you being the loser, you throw out a number too high and they dismiss you, too low and your underpaid. I don’t know if it’s because I am older and wiser or if there has been a cultural shift and it’s no longer taboo but I like it! Let’s not waste each other’s time, this is a job, I am working because I want to be paid, this isn’t a volunteer gig!

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Ruzana Glaeser
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09/09/20 at 2:59PM UTC
It's great to see small steps towards gender pay equity, something we are passionate about at brightmeetsbrave.com. When we work with women, we encourage them to: 1. Ask what the compensation range for the positions they apply for 2. Understand that their current salary is irrelevant to the new positions they are researching 3. Know their worth, so when they are asked about their expectations, they are prepared to give a range (allowing room for negotiations and setting expectations that range is because you need to understand what the role entails and that's done through interview process). Thanks for this post!!!
Jacquelyn Lloyd
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Coach & HR Consultant
08/27/20 at 2:36PM UTC
Always ask. It's helps you set an aggressive anchor at the very least.
Barb Hansen
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Startup Product, Growth & Strategy
08/27/20 at 2:27PM UTC
Very interesting, I didn't know that recruiters would not talk about salary if a person asked. Perhaps there is a industry-specific bias on this, and my industry experience just lead to more conversations about salary. I too am older (in my late 50's). In my mid-30s, I pivoted from healthcare to startup tech, and I have never had a recruiter not share the salary range during the first interviews when applying for a job. It took me about 10 years before I was comfortable having those conversations (because we were trained to not talk about money growing up) but salary was always discussed.
Mollie Leonard
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Head of People in NYC
08/27/20 at 2:08PM UTC
This!!!! Also companies no longer asking you to show pay stubs from your current roles!! That data is irrelevant! Jobs should pay based on the role responsibilities and the person's experience in those areas - that's it!
Sweet Caroline
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08/27/20 at 7:30PM UTC
In my state that is illegal!
Kelli
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Helps senior-level women make career changes
08/27/20 at 12:30PM UTC
I love that this is changing as well. I think it's different for each industry as well. When I was in sales it was strange if you didn't ask or discuss compensation from the start. Why does it have to be such a secret? You know what you want...they know what they can pay...it's either a match or it isn't! Glad to see you've been having success with this.
Denise
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Contracts & Accounting Manager
08/27/20 at 12:16PM UTC
Hi Sweet Caroline. I'm so happy to see that this is finally starting to change as well. The company I work for now posts the salary range for each job opening up front for the very reason you state - let's not waste each other's time!! Good on you for having the courage to ask the question the first time, and for continuing to ask it each time you speak to a recruiter. I turned 60 last month, and I have always hated the guessing game when it comes to compensation. At one point in my career, due to a nasty divorce and child custody battle, I moved to a different state, and needed to find a job quickly, so I took a very low paying temp job just to be able to provide for my kids. When I started interviewing for jobs that were more in my wheelhouse, I ran across one recruiter who wouldn't speak with me until I told her my current salary. My current salary at that time was no indication of what I expected to earn at the position I applied for. We no longer ask that question - the questions today are "do you find the salary range we posted acceptable?" or "what is the salary range you're looking for?"

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