Mid-Year Role Change with No Comp Discussion

Mid-Year Role Change with No Comp Discussion

I was asked today if I would take over 1 c-suite executive and 3 department heads (very large departments.) Two as their direct assistant and 2 to ‘help out’.

One of these people is extremely difficult and recently their assistant quit because working with them was too stressful (the exec in question is on the spectrum, so social cues are difficult.) they aren’t mean-not on purpose, and can be very friendly and chummy. But they knit pick and micromanage and have a lot of whims. They also throw the occasional tantrum. Like raised voice.

I was asked to do these roles because I’m very no-nonsense but still friendly and professional and they want someone who will manage this person as well as let them know when they are bothering others-to head off future issues. I’m very vocal about the in the ground needs of the office-which I guess The higher ups don’t often hear about.

Also, the difficult person has enjoyed talking with me more since he said something rude once and I told him I would not speak to him if he was going to be a bully and he was upset I called him a bully-but I guess likes that I’ll stand up to him? It changed the dynamic at least-I can see why they want me to handle him.

The thing is, those asking for the change don’t want to discuss the comp until the end of the year-stating that they never discuss comp mid year, even with a huge role change.

I accepted a position as much lower level admin so I could move more towards running all events and such for the company. (I’m doing so now.) There’s been a huge uptick in events, but they are saying this will diminish soon and I will have the time to do both events and executive assisting.

However I’m pretty sure they have no idea how much work goes into event planning so I feel like this is a lot more work in a direction I’m not sure about.

The only pros to this would be my schedule would become more flexible with a day I can Wfh that I don’t have now and I would be working with board members who know I’m doing the event planning which will make it easier to carve out a department for my self as we do more and more events in the future.

However, I’ve never accepted a role without a comp discussion. I told them I might be willing to give it a 3 month trial period-but…am I crazy? Is that not risky? I already make just a hair over 6 figures so it’s not like my comp is currently unreasonable but taking on 3 department heads and a c-suite exec without discussing comp…should I give it a go? The c-suite exec and one of the department heads have their own assistant but they aren’t located in the area, and are purely remote. They want me to kinda be their onsite person, so not as heavy a workload but still…

What kind of comp would you expect for someone with 5+ years of experience doing 200+person events plus assisting 3 department heads and a C-suite exec in a major US city (Finance/Banking)? Would it be worth it to do for 6 months and build up proof of my worth, or is that crazy and I should fight for a number now? The company is still building out itself and I think I could start a department here and help mold culture.

Sorry for any grammar errors I’m on a phone and need to have a decision by tomorrow. Advice is desperately requested.

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  1. Anonymous

    I would let them know that your acceptance of a new or expanded role will ? with a discussion of compensation. Do if that needs yo wait until year end then your acceptance will be delayed until year end. Trust me.....none of the leaders or executives would ever accept a new job description without a comp discussion in tandem.

    As for your increased responsibilities, I would say around a 12-15 % increase would cover the added stress and work involved.

  2. Dasha Mizinova

    Do not accept the role without a comp increase. They need you more than you need this role and you sound like a great admin. You are in the best negotiating position right now.

  3. Audrey Kirsch

    If you want to compromise, offer a 30 day trial period before you will need a salary increase. That would be long enough for you to see what all is involved. It will also give you the chance to assess how much comp you would consider fair given the new responsibilities. If you say no comp, no work, you may not be offered any further opportunities or you may end up with compensation less than you deserve.

  4. Anonymous

    If they were hiring an external candidate to fill this role they would absolutely discuss comp. It should be no different just because it's easier for them to fill the role with an internal candidate. They aren't adding a new task to your plate, it is a significant change, i.e. new position which should include a comp change.

  5. Julie Humbird

    I was just reading a post on LinkedIn discussing how taking a promotion without a comp bump is wage theft. Everyone in the comments agreed it was a mistake to accept this (several had done so and regretted it). If they cannot discuss compensation until year-end, can they wait to fill this resource gap until year-end?

  6. Christine Jacques

    No. They discuss the compensation now, or you stay where you are. They want you, so the odds are in your favor.

    To frame it as less of a hardball issue: "The role you want me to fill requires more of my skills. Of course I want to be compensated fairly in any role. Let's talk about what would make me want to move from my current position, which I love."

  7. Kimberly Johnson

    I agree with this. More work = more $

  8. Anonymous

    I don’t know what your comp should be, but the idea that you’d be taking on a tremendous new workload for no increase in pay *over a 6 month period* seems crazy to me.

    What’s more, it gives your company the chance to survey the market with no assurances to you. In other words, all risk to you, all upside to the company.

    I understand that you’d like to give the new position a shot, but it needs to be on a win-win basis. I think that your suggestion of a trial period (6 weeks to 3 months) is very fair, but you should know the new salary going in, if the company decides to give you the job permanently.

    One more way of thinking about this: any new candidate for this job will be told a pay range. Why should you be subject to lesser treatment?

  9. customer Johnson

    You said you were asked to do this because you are “no nonsense but friendly and professional” and known for being “vocal about the ground needs of the office”.
    Be you. Is this 20% more work than what you’re doing right now? What does a department head make in your company? Is there a halfway between your present salary and that?
    No nonsense but friendly and professional. If they need you, they need you to help them change their “never” process to accommodate this mid-year change.

  10. JJ

    I would very nicely tell my boss that I do not consider adding extra roles for free until there is time for a compensation plan. Say no. Working for free means they are taking advantage of you.

  11. JeanL

    Aside from compensation (which is huge), you also mentioned that two of the people have their own remote assistants, but you would be the onsite person. From experience, I can tell you that doesn't necessarily mean less work for you since you'll be the one they see and that can create problems between you & the other assistants about who is "in charge." Just another thing to think about>

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