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Anonymous
08/23/20 at 2:35PM UTC
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Exit interview request - yes/no

Recently left a management position - abruptly. Still feels like I should have more closure. What should I do ? Went into work in am my manager blasts out in a rush says she rearranged my teams responsibilities for the day putting my top productive person to a menial task for an entry level - during a time of high call volume and need to catch up with many unhappy consumers needing call backs as well I voiced my dislike and the direction corporate wants the team to be managed - she blew up in front of team and consumers - requested privacy and she was like why??? Went into private area during the conversation which she was yelling and acting off the wall - she lurched at me yelling then stomped off and out! In shock I chose to leave right then - shaking and shocked. NEver seen such behavior in a work place! I texted and left message for my Corp lead of the situation and texted my team at night I could not work under this type of behavior or management style and appreciated all they have done during my time there After a period of trying to analyze wth happened the next day I texted manager and she said you quit I made plans already - thus ??? What would you suggest I should do. Never sent resignation to Corp HR. Sure she set the picture differently when explaining what happened My nerves and stress level are now at normal level again after working some weeks 7 days non stop 9am to sometimes midnight!!! Loss my comp time and never signed a contract for salary but changed to it at Mgr verbal request. How should I put closure - never asked to do an exit interview or anything. Hostile toxic work environment in ? Salary left me working for less than min wage - working all these hours consistently. Should I reach out to HR at all or chock it up to a bad experience and leave it alone. Btw this was not a career position - came out of retirement to help organize and create remote team prior to business opening for summer season. All fine then until we hit the ground at the worksite!

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Anonymous
08/28/20 at 6:30AM UTC
She keeps modifying and adding to her story. I wish for her peace of mind to put this behind her and find validation in a more intimate setting.
Anonymous
08/28/20 at 10:11AM UTC
Thanks is there a way to close this thread that you know of
Anonymous
08/27/20 at 5:12PM UTC (Edited)
After much research there is a federal law that lists the minimum someone can be paid as a salary employee. Now see the wage was below that 2020 ruling change. Will be following up with labor law Dept
Christine Holder
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08/27/20 at 11:46AM UTC
Write down the facts of the situation. Time, date, place, other staff present and quotes. Present these facts to your HR department. Explain your situation and voice your concern for those who may be trying to build their career. Keep it to the facts. Trust me, this goes a long way when presented in this fashion.
Anonymous
08/27/20 at 5:09PM UTC (Edited)
Thanks
Paula Bowie
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08/26/20 at 12:07AM UTC
Looking at the long chain of responses I have the following feedback: - In any situation, once you lose control you have lost the argument - even if you are technically in the right. Both individuals involved in this altercation lost control - no-one has the moral high ground here - Leaving the workplace in the moment with no explanation is Job Abandonment. There were other options to separate from the situation that did not involve abandoning the job I understand that the behavior experienced was unpleasant and unacceptable - however, if I was this person's manager I would find some of the responses to the behavior unacceptable too, for example: - Leaving the workplace with no confirmation that an explanation had been received and understood - Texting the team in the evening to further exacerbate the situation Once the emotional surges have passed, it may help to reflect more on the situation. There was fault on both sides here.
Anonymous
08/26/20 at 1:32AM UTC (Edited)
Absolutely! I did not do well when she lunged at me and came very close to my face - then yelled more and stomped off. I lost it right at the lunging into my face started to shake literally - and was actually feeling safer as she stomped off and out of the room herself leaving me there standing in shock actually. At that point I knew it would never turn to a safe working relationship again - and preferred to not wait for the next explosion. Totally felt threatened physically - and I am not one to have to protect myself physically in a workplace - or put myself into any physical altercations in my life. Not an excuse to walk out but def never done it before in over 40 years of my work life. Nor has this ever happened. It all happened so fast and furious Life is too short to be frightened or under such stress ! I do believe with your experience and education as a GM you would not behave like that ! Thus would not expect the same from your superior either
Anonymous
08/26/20 at 2:22AM UTC (Edited)
As a PTSD and violence victim I am confused and mystified by your responses. You don't actually state the bases of feeling she was going to attack you. Then she actually leaves the premises. You don't say you were afraid of her coming back or being afraid of people there. I do fraud related work. I had the female head of the City of Seattle Bikeshare program stand inches from my face shouting directly in my face when I told her we could not so easily bailout the fake non-profit program with our fenderal bikeshare grant ($1M) because it also had grant funded assets from the County and State. Did I run away? No. But while Manager is in my job title, I'm not treated like a manager in my toxic law breaking workplace. I'm starting to wonder if only people in charge feel they can behave like this, or run away, at the office. And the group texting was bad. The matter at that point should have been framed for HR to investigate and not made worse by contacting staff.
Anonymous
08/26/20 at 3:12AM UTC
I did state she lunged at me Flailing her arms and screaming she was a breathe from me actually closer - May I also say no mask and in someone’s face during this epidemic is enough of a threat but arms flailing at me as she came to me is the best I can describe. May have put up with it a lil bit when having to keep roof over head of family but at this point in life have no need for abusive work place - never tolerated physical abuse or verbal in all my years and not starting now! Some have to stay and take it thankful I do not!
Anonymous
08/26/20 at 3:07AM UTC
Our staff lives in the community all together by each other and they were there when it happened. All reached out to me and I chose to answer in group so nothing went into a gossip chat hearsay. “ I “chose to not go back into the craziness Only reason why I offered next day was to go and offload my open items to another and pass it off rather than just leave it all for someone to struggle through it ! No intent to return and stay at all just sew Up and offload open projects and tasks and process procedures!
Anonymous
08/26/20 at 1:34AM UTC
I do appreciate your opinion - and do believe the world has definitely turned into quite a volatile place - where no one thinks much about just using violence and verbal assaults to another. Which is truly sad
Motta
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08/25/20 at 11:11PM UTC
Darn. If he was male, could have just #MeToo'ed him. I don't think that will work now though..
Kenya Adams
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08/25/20 at 3:41PM UTC
Wow. You did the right thing by leaving the job. Personally I would have done it a different way, but you did what was best for you
Anonymous
08/25/20 at 11:13PM UTC
Exactly my point earlier. I've had to do it that same way before and I'm better for it.
Anonymous
08/25/20 at 1:24PM UTC
I've seen cases where employees rage quit, and if HR wants to get their side of the story then HR reaches out to them. If HR hasn't reached out to you then I suspect they aren't interested in your side of the story, so it's probably not worth reaching out to them. If you think you were unfairly compensated I think your only recourse at this point is to talk to an employment lawyer to see if you have a case (labor law violation, etc.). Otherwise I think the best thing for your mental health is to just be glad that you set a boundary and left when you felt you were being pushed too far. Sorry you have had to deal with this; it sounds very stressful.
Anonymous
08/26/20 at 3:02AM UTC
This company churns through people so not surprising not wanting an exit interview with any of us that leave
Blanca Sanchez
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Pharmacist monitoring clinical trials.
08/25/20 at 1:23PM UTC
I understand you are facing many situations right now and emotions are overwhelming. Please, find a way to manage those emotions first and you mind will be calm again. Losing a job will make you pass the 7 stages of grief: shock and denial, pain and guilt, anger and bargaining, depression, the upward turn, reconstruction and working through, acceptance and hope. You are going pass for all those stages, maybe several times. At this moment you have to handle denial, anger, maybe guilt, and it is fine. Let the emotions flow in private (speaking with a good friend, writing, crying, screaming to the wall, punching a pillow) and then figure out what to do. Talking with HR seems a good choice to me. You have a managerial level and you already have an answer. Good luck.
Anonymous
08/25/20 at 1:16PM UTC
Give yourself a day or two to agonize about this and put it to bed. Your boss is unstable and behaved badly...and then you rose to the occasion and met her at her level!! There's no justification for this. Doesn't matter if you came out of retirement, worked long hours at minimum wage: you're looking for credit for these unrelated components of the job to justify YOU walking out of the job. You reached out to your corporate lead about leaving and then your team in dramatic fashion to let them know you were done with the position. What did you really expect to happen after these two things? Looks like a resignation, smells like a resignation...it's a resignation! I feel awful for you and this horrible, hostile situation you were in but you didn't do yourself a lot of favors in your departure. Set expectations if you ask HR for an exit interview. I'm not sure you're going to get the outcome you're after.
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