I'm curious: What career advice have you received that sounded good, but you realized didn't apply to your situation?

I'm curious: What career advice have you received that sounded good, but you realized didn't apply to your situation?

As a career coach, I strongly believe career advice (or any advice for that matter) is not one-size-fits all. I've been weary of inspirational quotes for this reason because they can sometimes be misplaced. I wanna hear what has helped or hurt in your experiences!

*Also- I'm thinking about starting some conversations around this subject (adding context to career advice and noting multiple perspectives) on a podcast. If you would be ok with your story being read anonymously on a podcast please note that in your comment! I would only use it if expressly given permission :) Either way I'm interested to hear what the ladies of FGB have experienced!

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  1. Sophie Joern

    "Stick it out - it will get better eventually." oh man has this one got me before! If I have learned anything, it is that sticking out a toxic situation is not the only option anymore :) feel free to share!

  2. Kat Reel

    Same here Sophie! I'm thankfully transitioning from a toxic department into one full of learning opportunities. I held out way too long in the toxic environment. But, I couldn't be happier now!

  3. Kimberley Ferretti Hammett

    Absolutely, I've been there too! I'm actually wondering now what situations that advice would work in, ha!

  4. Anonymous

    About a year ago, I spent what to me was significant money (4-digits) on 10 sessions with a career coach. By session 2 I realized that she had just repackaged What Color is Your Parachute but hoped that better more specific, actionable advice was headed my way. By session 8 I had checked out because it was not providing anything that I needed - she was just pushing an upper-middle-class narrative that did not fit me (which she would have known if she listened to what I said at all). I needed a career coach and not a babysitter, therapist or elementary school teacher to read the book to me.

    For context: I left a stalled "career" in communications to attend law school at 30 and while my first legal role was unfulfilling, it gave me the tiniest hope that I do not need to live hand-to-mouth for the rest of my life. Being closer to 35 it seemed like the right time to at least try and get some professional advice and to start trying to build a real career. This career counselor made me cry. Not in front of her, not because anything she said was inappropriate in and of itself but from the platitudes and her evident inability to hear and understand my situation and what I needed. It felt like she lied to me when she said that she understood and could help; she couldn't help or if I needed to adjust my expectations of career coaches then just tell me but don't take my money. Clearly she did not understand that I was being literal when I said that keeping a roof over my head has always taken and will always take precedence so we need to talk about how I can make it so that I am not miserable and that maybe I can try to get to that upper-middle-class ideal that she was pushing of aligning my employment with my values and sense of purpose. I needed concrete guidance on the practicalities, on what to do and how to do it, on what was a reasonable expectation and what was not, on what to expect and how to deal with it. I did not need her to do the hard work of taking action, but I needed some professional guidance and I didn't get any. It felt dishonest, she clearly could not meet me where I am but represented that she could.

    I am not embarrassed about putting my rent on credit cards and being on SNAP while holding a seemingly desirable entry-level job, I am not embarrassed by my undergraduate loan debt load. I am very open about having often taken any job that will have me and sometimes at any 2 or 3. When someone says that to you then you should believe them and proceed accordingly.

    Just because I have an education it doesn't mean that I have money. Just because I have an education it doesn't mean that I know what to do with it. My career coach did not appreciate those facts plainly stated. I have no doubt that she thinks that she helped me but she just made me cry and further reinforced that I will never have a career because clearly I just don't get "it".

  5. Anonymous

    I've been there. I started my current career at 35 - probably was making too much for SNAP by then, definitely still qualified for SSI for my special-needs youngest child. Took a chance, left a job that said they were working on a promotion for me (but without a firm timeline). Ended up being the right choice, but it was pretty scary. Took several years and several promotions. Was able to buy a house at 45. It's an amazing luxury to have all my bills on autopay. My credit is finally in decent shape, but I'll never be out from under the student loans. Don't give up hope.

  6. Kimberley Ferretti Hammett

    Oof! I'm so sorry to hear that experience. Coaching experiences SHOULD always be client-led, meaning, you decide the goals and should have directives tailored to you. This is exactly why I posed this question! Personally the first conversation I have with clients tends to be me making them describe what they want their life to look and feel like without saying anything about how they earn money. The goal is to always have that to refer to to ensure they make career decisions to support the life they define as right for them.

    I want to commend you for seeing this as you do and knowing so strongly what isn't for you. Even if you're still unclear on what is, this clarity you do have is healthy and not something everyone has. Many others might have fallen into believing that this coach knew something they didn't and been pushed by this person into choices that weren't right for them. I hope you celebrate that in yourself and continue to let it help you! Also, your ability to do what you need to to get by is a skill in itself! If you're able to grab jobs to fill in the gaps you sound like you've got a decent ability to inventory and apply your strengths in multiple ways.

    If I can offer a perspective (not advice lol, just something to think about) I would say to you that chances are you do not have one career ahead of you, but room for multiple careers. Businesses and career trends are changing rapidly and it will not slow down. The only contract you need to keep is with yourself to choose you. My point being there might be a lot of wrong answers but there are also a lot of right ones. I don't think of a "career" as following a path to a destination. I think we make designs in the sand as we go around obstacles and toward goals and when we look back at the path we made that's what we call our career. Does that resonate with you?

    Your story hit me so much as I found myself passionate about coaching because I've experienced leadership that "coached" me similarly... they very much had an idea of what I should want and couldn't figure out how to work with what I actually did want. I hope you are finding some more clarity these days and know that you totally have value to add to the working world and deserve to get what you want!

  7. JJ

    “Never burn a bridge.”

    Not everyone deserves second and third chances. Horrible bosses and unethical coworkers do not need to remain in your network.

  8. Kimberley Ferretti Hammett

    Oh wow, yes! Setting boundaries is so important and I can only imagine that if staying in good graces with positive people is beneficial, why couldn't cutting ties with negative people (therefore cutting of a potential network of like-minded, maybe even predatory people) also work in your favor!

  9. Anonymous

    Yes! I feel like theres no need to politely cut off a situation if the relationship has caused a lot of harm to you.

  10. Anonymous

    Always stand up for yourself…….not everyone has that basic privilege in a work setting

  11. Kimberley Ferretti Hammett

    So unfortunate but certainly! In an ideal world we could all risk losing our jobs to do right by ourselves but for some that could mean seriously risking our livelihood and that of the people who depend on us.

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