Did I ruin my chances??

26 Comments

1. Audrey KirschSeptember 21,2022 at 11:46PM UTC

   I wouldn't reach out again because then you probably will ruin any chance you have. They may be hiring from within but needed to post the positions to the general public. Or, the TAM may just be the type who doesn't like to be approached unless she initiates the interaction. Hard to know so you'll just have to sit tight. Your enthusiasm to work at the company is refreshing and welcome in many cases, but a cynical TAM may just think you're sucking up to get the job.

2. AnonymousSeptember 22,2022 at 1:11AM UTC

   The only way this could be about you is if they pulled the job description in order to rewrite it to match your resume to make you a shoo-in. Otherwise, it's just a coincidence.

3. AnonymousSeptember 22,2022 at 2:44AM UTC

   Waaaay over thinking things.

   The job may have been filled, May have been canceled or just attracting too much traffic and they have enough applications.

   It could be anything. Reaching out is not a reason the bridges burn.

   Now if you keep stalker the manager with unsolicited emails then yes, that will most likely hurt your chances.

4. Shelly EdwardsSeptember 22,2022 at 1:59PM UTC

   I agree, you are overthinking this way too much. If that's all it takes to ruin your chances, they weren't really looking anway. There are a number of reasons a company may take a job down. I would not think your one message should be a deal breaker. Now if you kept messaging and messaging again and again, then maybe, but one message should never be a deal breaker.

5. AnonymousSeptember 23,2022 at 11:02PM UTC

   I completely understand why your thought process went down this path, but you didn't ruin anything. I suspect it's coincidence. I would also encourage you to try to find out who the hiring manager is and in box that person. Talent Acq is typically taking their cues from that person. Hang in there. If it's not happening this go round, it's because you're meant to be someplace else.

6. Tabbi KinionSeptember 24,2022 at 12:39PM UTC

   As someone who hires positions, when people do this it doesn’t bother me but it also doesn’t help their case. It seems you were either not qualified enough (in comparison to the other candidates) to either make it to the interview or they have decided to go another way (an internal transfer, not filling the job, the hiring manager left, who knows) And, with most hires, it’s not about your deficiencies it’s about the skills, experience, and talent the competing candidates bring to the table.

   I will say, if you apologized for being interested in the job, that would be weird. They aren’t thinking anything about your email. Emails from candidates are normal - apologies for sending one would be odd. And may work against you in the future by inadvertently communicating a lack of confidence and inability to stand behind your word.

   There will be other similar roles out there - keep going!

7. AnonymousSeptember 24,2022 at 1:16PM UTC

   Don’t reach out again. You said your piece. More than likely their hiring process doesn’t have anything to do with you.

8. GirlBossanova934974September 24,2022 at 1:22PM UTC

   Here's a thought. The position that had been 'open' had actually been filled and someone forgot to take down the ad. Maybe a candidate had been offered the job and HR was waiting until the candidate signed off on the deal? Happens all the time. I would worry about the OTHER POSITION that has not been filled as better be sure your application is in the order and your resume looks good!

9. Kathleen Norton-SchockSeptember 24,2022 at 2:31PM UTC

   You are over-thinking things. We are in a period of economic change; and there could a hundred good reasons that the job was taken down. Gently, stay in touch if the talent manager seems open to it. And remember that, in this process, 99 times it is NOT you; it is a variety of other circumstances (internal candidates, change in budgets, different input from leadership, etc. etc. etc.). When you are doing something stressful (like trying to change roles/jobs/companies/industries etc.) it is "human" to make it all about you, in your head. But it's not. Really. Hang in there!!!

10. JulieSeptember 24,2022 at 2:31PM UTC

    Yes - absolutely overthinking. The timing in which a company puts up or takes down ads has nothing to do with any one applicant. Why would a company react that way to a random applicant?

11. Ashley BasilioSeptember 24,2022 at 2:42PM UTC

    I agree with many of the responses. It’s likely just a coincidence. The job posting could be removed because they decided not to hire someone or because someone else accepted the job. I hope you get the other one! Good luck!

12. Dagney TaggartSeptember 24,2022 at 3:08PM UTC

    Sometimes jobs are listed for a set amount of time and expire (aka they pay for 30 days of having it publicized and that time is up). That's what happened to me with a job for which I had applied, interviewed for, and start on Monday. Hang in there!

13. Shelby CSeptember 24,2022 at 3:24PM UTC

    You're overthinking it. I always felt that type of enthusiasm refreshing. She may not have information to share; however, it was impolite not to reply. Positions are typically set to 'run' a specific amount of time. Otherwise, once the process of reviewing applications has begun you're still being flooded.

14. AmyySeptember 24,2022 at 4:01PM UTC

    Hm, I read this differently from the other responders. Enthusiasm is great and, as others have said, refreshing. But this post is all about you. If we follow correctly, you essentially asked the TAM to hire you because it would make you so happy, then you asked for her help in making you happy. The TAM is looking for help for her challenges, not looking to make more work for herself by reviewing your credentials and making suggestions.

    Some great advice I got long ago: Your hiring manager has two resumes. One says "Hire Me And Make All My Dreams Come True." The other says "Hire Me And Make All YOUR Dreams Come True." All things being equal, which resume would YOU go for first?

    Put all that enthusiasm into making the company's dreams come true. Showcase the solutions you can bring to the challenges they face. They need more customers? Here's how you have brought more to your current company. They need a bigger social media presence? Here's how you boosted your company's image. Your focus is to make THEM happy. Once you can convince them that business will go better with you on the team, then - and not until then - would they be pleased that you LOVE them and will be a happy employee.

    Sure, they don't want to hire qualified-but-reluctant sourpusses; still, your happiness is pretty far down the pyramid of priorities in the hiring process.

15. AmyySeptember 24,2022 at 4:09PM UTC

    Add: I'd bet that you have not ruined your chances with this company, and that the next time you apply, your enthusiasm for solving the company's problems (fueled by your love for the company and what it stands for) that bursts out of every line of your resume, will put you ahead of the pack of applicants who sent a resume because, um, it seemed like a good idea at the time.

16. AnonymousSeptember 24,2022 at 5:27PM UTC

    Not at all.
    It’s always smart to reach out to the hiring manager. There are so many reasons the position may have closed without you getting an interview: the company may have decided not to fill the position, they may have hired someone who applied earlier than you and was further along in the hiring process, etc. If you’re really interested in the company, I’d recommend keeping an eye out for future positions and trying to find some folks at the company you can have coffee with to learn more about working there and how you might best fit.

17. Charlotte BowersSeptember 24,2022 at 5:33PM UTC

    I empathize with your concern. There is nothing wrong with selling yourself to an employer. I would ask you to think not that you ruined your chances but that the role may not be the one for you. Think positively, the other role is still an option and speak clearly how your skills will add value to the company. Best wishes.

18. Rosa GoesSeptember 24,2022 at 5:35PM UTC

    There is no need to apologize. You demonstrated confidence and interest in the company, which as others have mentioned, is refreshing. It may be that the position got filled and they forgot to take down the posting. Focus on your skills and knowledge. The next opportunity will come. Good luck to you!

19. Julie ESeptember 24,2022 at 6:04PM UTC

    My experience lately is that hiring managers just don't care unless the communication is part of their job function. I've reached out several times with different ones and didn't receive a response. Unless you're responding to an interview request, they won't get back to you.

20. Holly NunnallySeptember 25,2022 at 2:44PM UTC

    It's so frustrating! I read so many articles/blogs that all advise reaching out to the TAM/Hiring Manager to make a connection and let them know that you are interested and why you'd be a great fit for the company, but it seems like they just don't have the time for that.

21. Krystin MorganSeptember 25,2022 at 4:43AM UTC

    There's nothing to apologize for! The likely situation is they just had other candidates who were a better fit for the role and your message didn't change that. It definitely wouldn't have hurt your chances!

22. Bradford McCormickSeptember 28,2022 at 1:09PM UTC

    Or maybe just candidates they liked batter but not necessarily would be better?

23. AnonymousSeptember 28,2022 at 12:43PM UTC

    I love that you did that, but it typically doesn’t help unless you are already one of their top candidates., depending on how many applicants they got will determine whether they even saw it.

24. Bradford McCormickSeptember 28,2022 at 1:13PM UTC

    I don't think you ruined anything. But isn't it curious. Don't companies want "enthusiasm"? You were showing that in spades. Who knows what their reasoning was, and maybe they did have better applicants than you or maybe you had a better fantasy of them than they deserved? I think one thing to not do is to dig yourself into a hole by trying to back out of your initial contact with that talent Manager. You did a right thing even i not the only possible right thing. You did well. Somebody should appreciate you.

25. Kathleen FisherSeptember 28,2022 at 2:11PM UTC

    You are a superstar!!!! I am sure there is other stuff going on with the Talent Manager, she is probably very busy. Your enthusiasm should be celebrated! ?

26. Annetta MosesOctober 3,2022 at 3:08AM UTC

    It is unlikely that you negatively impacted your chances by in-boxing the company. The company may have received many applicants and does not respond to all applicants, including applicants who in-box them.

    The position could have been taken down for many reasons. The position could have been frozen, or the position was filled with another qualified individual.

    If you are interested in working at the company, consider networking with employees in your field. If there is another opening, one of them many submit your resume on your behalf.