Hi all - I have an interview story. More than likely, it's a "don't do what I did" story...

Hi all - I have an interview story. More than likely, it's a "don't do what I did" story...

Recently, I interviewed for a role at a startup company that was just bought by Big Pharma. The job description was perfect, the role was perfect for me, and I knew there would be opportunities for learning there.

I advanced to the final round of interviews, and it came down to me and another person. I had a great rapport with everyone, and really thought I'd be chosen.

Spoiler alert: I was wrong.

I think what killed my chances was when the hiring manager asked me what my 5 year plan was. I jokingly answered first, "If I win the lottery by then, retire." I continued with, "I'm done chasing job titles; I want to do work I love, with people I enjoy, and make an impact on patients' lives." Her response was, "So you want to be someplace where you can sunset your career." Not at all what I meant OR said, but basically I knew at that point I gave the wrong answer.

The thing is, I don't want to have to be dishonest and tell them that I plan to move up in the organization, and be a company woman, etc. Because it's a total lie. I'm at the point in life where I truly do not give an eff about playing politics, and have chosen to work to LIVE instead of the other way around. I want to do my job, develop my team and be proud of the work we do. And get paid enough to take a nice vacation once and awhile.

Thankfully I'm not in dire need of a new job, and I'm doing fine with the work I'm doing now. But I still feel like I should've crafted that 5 year plan response better.

On a positive note, I do feel like I dodged a bullet:

  • Several people asked me questions about how I specifically handled "difficult employees." I had the impression that there may be some restructuring/managing out that needed to be done with the team this role would inherit. Having been in this situation at previous jobs, it's not a good way to start at a new company.
  • The hiring manager described herself as a perfectionist, and we both have similar backgrounds. Made me think she'd never be happy with anything I'd do.
  • There had been significant turnover in this role. (See above.)

Has anyone ever answered that question similarly AND gotten hired afterwards?

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  1. Heather Mc

    This was the final round of interviews. She was making the decision that day. :o/

  2. Anonymous

    Interesting, I gave almost the exact same answer to the question, why do you want this job? Honestly at this point in my career the answer is honest. Anyone have a better answer to the 5 year question, when the answer is retirement? I am looking for very specific and valid reasons.

  3. Pao virgin

    Reading this is like reading myself questioning what's wrong with wanting to be honest during a job interview. Unfortunately, in the world we live in and for the companies we want to work for, we can't be ourselves.

    If something has made me feel better, it's finding my personality type through the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI) test and understanding myself and the market I'm looking to enter (what I mean is that) it's difficult to be oneself, and we have to learn to create a persona.

    The reality is that working for a corporation can really consume the soul and integrity of a person who doesn't like to be false in life or it's not their personality.

    You're not the first person to go through this; I was like that too until I understood that to get where I want, I have to lie about who I am, what I am, my values, and morals and offer them what they want to hear. Numbers and lies, and that's okay; we also receive the same, and we can give a bit of the same as long as our roles are performed professionally and responsibly.

  4. Tami L Cannizzaro

    I get it; it’s nice to be completely honest with the person you’re speaking with. Except not during an interview. We forget that interviews are not really about us, despite the fact we are interviewing for a job that suits us. In order to get the offer and, therefore, be able to make the decision whether or not to take the job, we have to remember this is about the hiring manager. They have a problem and are interviewing to find the best candidate to solve that problem.

    When answering the “5-year” question, most hiring managers don’t want to hear that we will retire. That makes a problem for them as they will have to find someone new again,

    even if you plan to move on to another opportunity in a few years, never let this be known! As someone else said, play the game during the interview. I’d continue to play the game after I was hired too. Your long term plans are not their business unless you want a promotion. ,

  5. Anonymous

    Hmm. I disagree slightly. You are interviewing the company just as much as the company I'd interviewing you. We don't live in a serf system where there's no choice on what you have to deal with. My default answer to that ludicrous 5 year plan question is "do you tend to keep your employees for 5 years?"

    It's a juvenile question put forward by hiring managers who don't have any idea how to interview.

  6. Tami L Cannizzaro

    Absolutely agree that we are interviewing the company as well! Yet they are in the drivers seat, right? It’s my goal to be in the drivers seat - I want them to want me so much they make me an offer, then I get to ask more questions and decide IF I want to accept. At that point I can clearly think, does this fit in MY plans? Again, I would not share with them - it’s my turn to drive. If I want to pursue I may counter with something; if they like me as I think they do, it can work in my favor. If we share details we may not get this chance.

  7. Heather Cutler

    Thanks for sharing your experience with this board.

  8. Tarra Reynolds

    I'm in the same boat, not wanting to climb the corporate ladder but still have plenty to contribute! I think the best answer is, I'm hoping I'll be able to look back on my last five years here and be able to see my impact in terms of x, y and z. What employers really want to know is what impact you'll have. I don't think they necessarily need every candidate to say they plan to move up rapidly.

  9. Wanda Shaw

    Sure, you could have rattled off an appealing 5 year plan and articulated it down to the commas in the sentences, but as you said, it wouldn't have been what you knew in your heart to be true. And I'll g o on record to say, "GOOD FOR YOU!" No , you may not have gotten that job, but then that position and company weren't good fits for you and not the other way around. In this day and time when folks are willing to do and say anything to get hired, even if they don't mean what they're saying or it goes against their personal values, it's refreshing to know that there are still people out there who really want to do work that matters to somebody.

  10. Jonna Ferguson, ACC

    I respect your honesty about what you want and don't want in your life. As a hiring manager myself, I would have been satisfied if you had answered the question by telling most of your truth, layering in transferrable skills, then sprinkling the top with a couple of your strengths. Answer the question by explaining what you DO want, why you want it and how it's important to you, without sharing what you don't want. For example:

    "My 5-year plan is to do work I love with people I enjoy and make an impact on patients' lives while developing my team for the future so we're proud of the work we do when surpassing our goals. My passion is to be the kind of leader who brings the best out in others individually and as part of a team, and to inspire them to become better versions of themselves through embracing change. It's important for me to apply that same philosophy to myself so while I don't know exactly what the next 5 years will bring, I know I'll develop personally and professionally as the company grows."

    You could clearly write this better for yourself based on the knowledge of your own skills and experience, and while this isn't a "plan" of sorts, it's an example of how to convey what you want and what you're passionate about without focusing on what you don't. That said, I believe things do happen for a reason and based on the red flags you called out, there is a better role out there for you somewhere close by!

  11. Paulla Fetzek, MSEd

    While I'm very sorry you didn't get the job, as one who hires, I sincerely appreciate the honesty.

    Additionally, I'm also not a "climber". Not long ago, someone called me a "workhorse" and I replied with "That's a title I'll wear with pride."

    I don't understand why some companies seem to believe that everyone wants to get in and move up. If this truly were the case, who would be left to do the work? ?

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