I was recently terminated after submitting my cancer treatment schedule to my boss, the owner of the company.

I was recently terminated after submitting my cancer treatment schedule to my boss, the owner of the company. I have been working in an administrative capacity for this employer for over a year and a half. It is a small company with only 3 employees. I initially was diagnosed with cancer in June and from that point on I felt like my boss started trying to push me out. He never offered any compassion, empathy, nothing. He literally shook his head and started "huffing and puffing" the moment I told him. Keep in mind, outside of doctors appointments, I continued to go to work every day, no matter how poorly I felt. He started threatening my job almost weekly for unfounded reasons almost immediately after finding out about my diagnosis. Every time he did this I was able to produce proof to the contrary of whatever his current complaint was. He became more and more of a bully when he realized I was not going anywhere and I was not going to be pushed out. I have listened to him call me names to another employee who was refusing to do their job in order for me to do mine (one of his drinking buddies he hired). It has been a nightmare. I stayed as long as I did because I was scared that another employer would not want to hire someone who would eventually be undergoing cancer treatment. I am a single female and need to work to support myself, so this has been a huge fear. I almost rejected my treatment because I was fearful that he would fire me! My care team representative asked me why I would be willing to "die" for a job that was so horrible and said that should have some kind of recourse if he were to let me go. He let me go 3.5 hours after I turned in my treatment schedule, this after not saying one word to me the entire morning. When I asked him why he said that I was not doing my job. I asked him why, if that were the case, my inbox was empty and all of my tasks were completed? He then stammered and stuttered and said something about unauthorized internet usage, even though he knew I used the internet for research purposes for my job. He then went on to say something about "playing games all day". When I told him that was ridiculous and untrue he said that he had "printouts". I know that he has had his computer guy signing onto the computers remotely since the last employee left. So I feel like he found a way to set me up when he realized I was covering my butt on everything. I don't know, but I have never been written up my entire time there! I know that he let me go due to my cancer and the required treatment, but how do I prove that? By the way, my job was in the State of Kansas. I am so upset and stressed out about this, all while getting ready to start my treatments this week. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

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  1. Nick Kossovan

    No employee should have to go through what you gone through.

    My advice, especially since you seem to have a good handle, with timeframes, as to how your termintation unfolded, is to seek out an employment lawyer and see what your options are.

  2. Anonymous

    Agree. If you have a lot of documentation, you may have a qualified EEOC complaint. Contact them within 180 days. Also, employment lawyer.

  3. Colleen Hanson

    I do have some documentation, however this man has managed to lie his way out of claims by former employees for unpaid wages, harassment, etc. He is a true snake! He also owes me 6.5 weeks worth of pay that I am afraid I will never see! A former employee who left the end of September is STILL trying to get her last months pay! She filed a claim for unpaid wages a month ago and he keeps lying saying her checks were mailed. The State has done absolutely nothing to verify this and the former employee is at her wits end! I believe he mailed her checks to her old address, on purpose, because I heard him chuckling about it while talking to his friend. He's just disgusting!

  4. Colleen Hanson

    Thank you!

  5. Anonymous

    cancer and cancer treatments are covered by the Americans with Disabilities Act (the ADA) find an attorney who specializes in disability discrimination. Good luck with your treatment.

  6. Colleen Hanson

    Thank you. I have left messages for a couple of different attorneys so hopefully I will hear something back soon! I am just scared of this mans level of deceit, it seems to have no end. I have watched him get away with unpaid wages, harassment, etc. He has an attorney on stand by and it seems they lie and weasel their way through every situation he has been faced with. The whole situation just makes me sick!

  7. Kristie White

    First, take a deep breath and accept that this is NOT your fault.

    You are the victim of a coward, someone who puts his business above compassion. Thank goodness you are out at an early stage because his behavior is and would have continued to negatively impact your health. Now thru no fault of your own, you can focus on loving yourself and getting well. File for unemployment, research how you can use government programs to survive while you focus on your health and get some cash flowing in your direction. You can get insurance through the ACA by going to healthcare.gov until 12/15. Focus on you and forget this nightmare of a job. I’m not sure about Kansas, but because the company has less than 10 employees it may be under the radar for many legal requirements. So instead of worrying about challenging this worthless human being, focus on self-care and financial survival until you are ready to go back to work. May the Spirit bless you with a speedy recovery!

  8. Colleen Hanson

    Thank you!

  9. Anonymous

    Reach out to your care manager. They can likely help with applying for government assistance (if available) and pointing you toward legal assistance.

    Do you have any colleges with law programs nearby? Law students will take on cases like this for FREE. They need a certain number of cases under their belts before they graduate. This seems pretty open and shut ADA violation.

    Most importantly: YOU ENCOUNTERED A PSYCOPATH AND SURVIVED. These people crop up now and then and they do not respond to logic or legal threats. You are 100% not at fault. It is just very bad luck, like getting hit by a tornado.

  10. Colleen Hanson

    I have reached out to my care coordinator, however she is out of the office until next week due to the Thanksgiving holiday. I am hopeful that she will be able to help me with some resources, as she has been well aware of my fears. Thank you for taking the time to respond!

  11. Crystal Howell

    Contact your local american cancer society, document his work attitude before and after the treatment. They will point you to the correct resources, even attorneys. Good Luck, keep us posted. Good Luck

  12. Colleen Hanson

    Thank you!

  13. JustKeepSwimming

    Also since you mentioned you’re single, the ACA provides all kinds of support services including rides to/from appointments if you need them. (Always after surgeries, even if it’s an ambulatory surgery center they’ll want you to be picked up and driven home.)

  14. Dawn S. Cross

    You say your job “was in the state of Kansas”. Does this mean you worked for the State itself or employment was in Kansas?

    Either way, please seek assistance from the Kansas Department of Labor - dol.ks.gov

    They will be able to direct you more than we can.

  15. Colleen Hanson

    Thank you. I did not work for the State, just in the State.

  16. Dawn S. Cross

    Thanks for the update. I’m sorry this is going on, but please reach out to the department above. No matter what, you should be entitled to unemployment no matter what. Good luck and healing

  17. Anonymous

    File a complaint with the EEOC immediately. They will conduct an investigation to determine if you were terminated unlawfully because of the cancer. Sounds like you have plenty of documentation that you were continuing to do your job more than adequately. Even if the company is too small to be obligated to hold your job during your treatment FMLA, they are obligated under the Americans with Disabilities Act to provide reasonable accommodation to you during your treatment. That is a Federal law, regardless of what state you live/work in. Firing you for your cancer or treatment is also against the Federal law. That's where the EEOC comes in. Did you have health insurance through this employer?

  18. Colleen Hanson

    Thank you for your reply and advice! No, he did not provide insurance or any other benefits.

  19. Lisa Bohm Klein

    This is all good advice.

  20. Colleen Hanson

    Thank you!

  21. Patricia Manroe

    I would file a complaint with the government too. I don't believe they are allowed to fire you for a medical diagnosis.

  22. Colleen Hanson

    Thank you!

  23. Anonymous

    Oh my dear, I am very sorry you are going through this. I wish you a speedy recovery. You need to understand that he has no right to fire you due to a medical diagnosis, this is illegal. you need to seek legal help ASAP.

  24. Colleen Hanson

    Thank you!

  25. Anonymous

    This post makes my blood boil. I have a dear friend going through cancer treatment right now and he is employed through my family’s business. We couldn’t imagine giving our employees any less than the same love and compassion we’d give our own family. It’s one of the reason why we have employees who work for us for 40 plus years. (Including my friend, who I’ve known for approximately 43 years). If he were to decide to leave us and the new employer treated him the way yours is treating you, I would personally help him file legal action against that employer and wouldn’t stop until he was totally bankrupt, out of business, and reputation ruined. What your employer is doing is at the very least, illegal, and beyond that it is simply immoral. You’ve haven’t been working there long, but nobody deserves to be treated this way. It sounds like you have documentation to supersede the lies he’s telling. So I’ll echo what everyone else has said here, nail this disgusting excuse for a human being to the wall. Don’t stop at backpay, sue for emotional damages too. I wish you health and healing. ?

  26. Colleen Hanson

    Thank you! I think his complete lack of any type of compassion is what infuriates me the most. I just can't imagine ever treating another human being with so much disdain, like the cancer was my fault! When I first started working there the other employee warned me to always cover my butt, saying that the boss was, in his opinion, a narcissist. I learned very early on that he was right. He was terminated a few months after I started over a pay dispute (he wasn't getting paid what was owed to him). Somehow the boss turned it around and said that the employee had quit and the pay dispute was over things the employee had charged to a company credit card that were taken out of his pay. I knew this was untrue, as the boss had approved the charges! Yet somehow his high priced attorney got him out of the whole thing; he didn't have to pay unemployment and the guy never received the monies owed to him. Another employee quit the end of September and is still waiting on 4 weeks worth of pay! She has filed a claim, but he and his attorney have come up with false documents saying she moved 2-3 times since she left and he has purposefully been mailing her checks to her old address, from over a year ago (and chuckling about it)! She has not moved since leaving there and provided him with her address, in writing, before she left! This man is just a devious scumbag and so is his attorney. I am scared that I am going to face the same type of lies and deceit.

  27. Anonymous

    Just because this scumbag has lied his way out of things in the past, doesn’t mean he’ll get away with it in your case. In fact, from what you shared here, I think it’s very unlikely he’ll get away with anything. The timing of your diagnosis, and subsequent firing is enough to make any judge or jury sit up and take notice! I hope that poor excuse for a human gets what’s coming to him. Sending prayers for you and your family.

  28. Alexis Gladstone

    I am so sorry you are going through this Colleen. Having completed breast cancer treatment this year, I can completely relate to the stress this is causing especially as a single woman with only one income.

    As others have said, focusing on your health is job #1. While I don't know the details of your treatment, suffice it to say, it can take a huge emotional toil even if you don't realize it in the moment. The less distractions and others stressors, the better.

    If you'd like, please reach out via message here or find me on LinkedIn. I'm not in HR or an attorney but I'm I have a large network of attorneys including in Kansas and I may be able to help find you someone to talk with. I'm also happy to talk as a cancer survivor.

  29. Colleen Hanson

    Thank you so much! I would definitely love to talk to you further!

  30. Alexis Gladstone

    Feel free to message me on here or on LI.

  31. Chi Ndukwe

    I truly am sorry that you are going through something like this. Just adding my 2 pence to everyone's good advice here; don't take this lying low. There has to be some kind of recourse and I hope someone in employment law helps you get it soon.

  32. Colleen Hanson

    Thank you, I hope so too! The man I worked for was horrible and I watched him abuse his power and treat other employees horribly during my time there. However the man has an attorney pretty much on payroll and has been able to get away with every miserable thing he has done, it's so sad. I do have former employees who are willing to testify as to his character and underhanded ways, I just don't know if it will be enough. This man lies, plots and schemes to get his way. It was a horrible place to work, however I needed a job and was afraid after I got my diagnosis that no one would want to hire me. I want to take this man down so badly so that he can never mistreat another employee.

  33. Jennifer Halligan

    Honestly, all of that sounds incredibly illegal. My father was one of the top HR consultants in employment law in the nation. Sadly, I think he'd have been able to help but he passed suddenly last month. The law firm his company worked for is in DC (we live in CA) but he worked all over the country. I don't know the laws but from what I picked up on over the years tells me that this was not only messed up but very illegal. Idk if they can help you but if you want to meassage me with info ... Idk, maybe I can help set you up with someone who does & would be highly-respected. So feel free to reach out. It may not work but my motto is that it never hurts to ask bc the worst answer you can get is "no." And I'm truly sorry to hear of your health struggles & am sending positives vibes your way. Feel free to get in touch! Best of Luck to you! ??????????

  34. Colleen Hanson

    Thank you so much! I have filed claims with EEOC and the ADA and am in the process of trying to find an attorney at this point.

  35. Sarah Page

    One thing to remember, companies under 15 employees do not fall under ADA protections so they might not be able to do anything. A labor attorney would better be able to help decide if this falls under wrongful termination. One thing that I can tell you will help, write down as many dates of the complaints and the resolution (proof of it being BS) that you can remember. Most states do not pay unemployment for terminations for failing to do your job only for layoffs but if you can prove that you did do it and the owner is lying, you will get your unemployment.

    I hope your treatment works out, try not to stress over this. Reach out to unemployment, a labor attorney and let them help you navigate all of this.

  36. Crystal Howell

    Go Norma Jean! Do not speak of this to anyone, except family. Don't do any social media, go stealth,your attorney will handle. Good luck on your treatments

    Keep us posted!

  37. Carol Sardinha

    Have you gone to the Human Rights and Opportunities group in your state? You should prove that you were discriminated upon.

  38. Jackie Ruka

    I truly believe there is a position and role way better than the toxic and miserable person you were working for. Perhaps you can get unemployment and also file for damages against this company, totally illegal.

    in the meantime, work on getting healthy and perhaps a remote position from home is the best alternative while you overcome your cancer and get rest or perhaps move in with family.

    As unfortunate as it is, it might be a blessing in disguise to rid this job and very toxic work life.

    Wishing you healing and blessings for recovery and a fabulous new chapter ahead.

  39. Colleen Hanson

    Thank you!

  40. JustKeepSwimming

    Remote work was the key for me … I even worked on chemo days by making my chemo appointments on Fridays and taking my laptop with me to the treatment center. You got this!

  41. Tramaine

    Colleen, I'm sorry to hear about your diagnosis and I pray that you soon find a role and company that provide the support, compassion, and opportunity you need and desire.

  42. JustKeepSwimming

    Oh honey I’ve been through work + cancer treatment and even with a supportive work environment it was a real challenge. If you’ve got your documentation of how you’ve been treated since announcing your diagnosis, records of your work and performance, etc., then I think you’ve got a solid case to take this guy to court and win compensation. Talk to an employment lawyer asap. Especially as it’s a state job — do you have a union? I know in my state (WA) the union would be allll over this. Best of luck and hang in there!

  43. Chriscodyc1

    I do not believe it is a state job. She stated it is IN the State of KS. Also, so few employees in a small business..no union.

  44. Anonymous

    Get a lawyer!

  45. Anonymous

    Unfortunately, a lawyer won’t be much help in Kansas. That state heavily favors employers over employees. I know, I went thru a similar situation, being terminated for being on FMLA. Of course they gave another concocted reason, but even my union could not help! I wish you the best of luck with your treatment.

  46. Anonymous

    It may have also something to do with the company's insurance plan. I saw this happen at a small company once. Their insurance carrier jacked up their rates and threatened to non-renew if they kept the terminal employee on their plan. It was all done orally and on the 'qt' but it was a threat, so they basically let the ill one go. I thought it was immoral.

  47. Anonymous

    This happened to me back in 2002. I was in the middle of a year long very expensive medical treatment that my company's health insurance company had agreed to. Their premiums got raised and they switched carriers. I was then unlawfully terminated for gross misconduct which I never commited and proved it. Gross misconduct was the only reason in the law that could prevent me from continuing my health insurance, even through COBRA. I sued, after filing a complaint with the EEOC. I had one of the finest employment attorneys in California, who took the case on contingency and it took 4 years, but they settled out of court with me to keep the case from going public. They are a large national retailer, they had done this before, and it was a federal case. As part of the settlement, in the final mediation, in addition to my large monetary settlement which was punitive (not taxable), the Federal Judge required a formal, public letter of apology for what they did to me, that my employment record be amended, and they were fined 2 million dollars for breaking Federal employment laws.

  48. Colleen Hanson

    Wow! Good for you!

  49. Afo Ogbeyalu Kalu

    I'm glad to read that you are being pro-active in seeking recourse . . . . An additional resource for you to consider is Cancer and Careers. That forum has a wealth of knowledge and peer support regarding "navigating professional waters" during /post treatment, legal advice, etc. Wishing you luck and serene healing . . .www.cancerandcareers.org

  50. Anonymous

    You need an employee lawyer asap! Stay positive, strong and clear that you have done nothing wrong!

  51. Anonymous

    This has probably been said but call and file a complaint with the EEOC all states have one!

  52. Anonymous

    You may be in a state that favors employers over employees. The ADA is federal law and a disability lawyer may be able to help you with a settlement. You want to be a pain in the neck to the point where they will settle, but not too big a pain so they fight you. Sometimes it can be as “simple” as a well placed call suggesting that they don’t want to deal with the bad PR or the expense of a lawsuit.

    Do you have copies of any records? I ask because I saw a company once change their records to protect themself and the employee who acted illegally.

    put your energy to healing and get done professional help to deal with the finances and maybe a severance package that includes health insurance for ongoing treatment.

    good luck!!

  53. Anonymous

    I'd talk to an employment attorney and compile any documentation you have, even written notes of dates/times things happened. Even if the state is employer favored, the country has things in place to protect employees. Medical conditions are often protected. Also, there are steps that have to be taken to let people go and it sounds like he to none so at the very least you'd likely be able to get unemployment. Even if you're in a state that says you can be let go for any reason (I'm in a similar state), you still have to go a certain route to ensure they don't get unemployment. Doesn't sound like they did that, but talk to an employee rights attorney first.

  54. Colleen Hanson

    Thank you!

  55. Anonymous

    Personally I would seek a no cost 30 minute consultation with an employment law attorney and file a complaint with the state at minimum. Be sure to leave reviews of your employer on employment sites as well so other people can steer clear of this treatment. I wish you all the best with your treatment.

  56. Colleen Hanson

    Thank you! I do have an appointment to speak with an attorney tomorrow!

  57. Katie Hewitt

    I was pushed out in a similar fashion. Just this passed week. I like you was to the point to forgo any type of treatment.

  58. Colleen Hanson

    I'm so sorry Katie! Obviously I know how you feel. It's miserable to be facing treatment while not knowing how you will afford to keep a roof over your head, eat, etc. It just adds to the stress. Hugs and prayers!

  59. Katie Hewitt

    I’m so sorrry

  60. Victoria Rego

    I’m so sorry this happened to you. I lost my job after my treatment was completed and I was provided unpaid leave and yet working for a company for 18 years. Please contact Cancer and Careers they can provide you with state specific course of action. They can provide you with a lot of helpful information.

    https://www.cancerandcareers.org/en/about-us?gclid=Cj0KCQiAsoycBhC6ARIsAPPbeLss42bj9WPlJZq9bLQLpf6wVgCU112Xp1oAl5fc1Ng_TXKoUQKvRtcaAoBXEALw_wcB

  61. Colleen Hanson

    Thank you for the information!

  62. Anonymous

    I have a friend who was a VP... She has lupus and was undergoing treatment very very sick and while she was off on leave they terminated her. Very shaky situation and she ended up having to hire an attorney big mess for her I agree contact the cancer people they will help you out

  63. Kathryn

    Yes contact the EEOC (if n US) They will help you file a complaint in fact you give them the story they take t from there you will have to answer one letter. They do all the rest . Do this and explain to them the whole story they will take it from there.

  64. Ida McCarty

    I am so sorry that this is happening to you. I was in a similar situation when battling breast cancer in 2016. My state is a at will employer. My employer gave a unbelievable reason for the separation. It was actually a blessing in disguise for me, and may be for you as well. You work in administration, and there are plenty of remote position. You do not need to fight cancer, while working in a miserable work situation. Stress is counterproductive to chemotherapy treatments. Work on beating cancer, and working in a capacity that is adaptable to your treatments. This is just a chapter in your life, not the end. Fight like a girl, and work like a boss!

  65. Hannah

    My dear friend, I don't see the need for you to be in that job when you saw a change in his attitude. Who said you can't be employed by another employer? if I were you, I would rather leave in peace and save my good records so that I can use it as referral or referee when it's needed the most. With all these red flags, I don't even understand why you want him to get grounds to blackmail you and spoil your chances of getting a better job offer early. Please do the honourable thing. Quit and believe God, and you'd see wonders

  66. Anonymous

    I really hope God has an employment attorney on speed dial because hugs and prayers aren’t going to solve a thing for the OP.

  67. Cheryl Wilburg

    God does not "give people" cancer. What an odd statement that shows a complete lack of understanding of people's faith

  68. Becky

    Please find yourself an employment attorney ASAP. Based on the facts provided, it sounds like you have a strong claim for discrimination based on disability (cancer meets the definition of disability under Equal Employment law). If you are able to successfully sue for (or settle) a discrimination claim, your former employer will likely be required to compensate you for lost wages.

  69. Colleen Hanson

    Unfortunately it does not appear that I can sue him. The company only had 3 employees at the time he terminated me, so it seems there is no recourse. It does however explain how he has been able to get away with previous harassment (terminating an employee when she ended their relationship), failing to pay all owed wages (2 former employees have been forced to file claims with the State and one is STILL fighting for her wages even though she filed her claim 6 weeks ago), trying to get former employees fired from their new employers by contacting the new employer and bad mouthing the former employee. This man's reign of terror has no end and it seems no one can do anything about it!

  70. Anonymous

    First, I am so sorry that you have to go through this and for your diagnosis. Your health is the most important thing of all. Focus on that and the career will happen when you're ready and healed. Second, I would speak with an employment attorney regarding wrongful termination. I'm not familiar with Kansas state employment law to know if they are an at-will state or not, so an attorney can certainly give you better advice. With federal law, a company of just 3 people does not qualify under FMLA or ADA, which would protect you in situations such as this, but there may be other laws, especially in your state, that can help you. I wish you luck in your treatments. Hopefully you can recover quickly and find a job more deserving of your talents.

  71. Colleen Hanson

    Thank you! Unfortunately what I am finding on the State level is that there are no protections for employees of very small companies. It's frustrating! I don't think it should matter how big or small a company is; discrimination is discrimination and should not be tolerated in any form! Based on what I witnessed during my time there this pathetic excuse of a man preyed on people, bullied employees, harassed employees and knew that he could get away with it. I know a former employee who has been fighting, through the State, for 2 months to get her final four weeks of pay from him while he smugly chuckles about sending her checks to her "old address" from over a year prior! The State has done very little to help her recover her unpaid wages! They have yet to ask for proof of mailing! She filed her Claim for Unpaid Wages over 6 weeks ago! All because she left for a better opportunity! I also know that he tried to contact her new employer after she left because I overheard him chuckling to his friend that she was "no longer with her new employer" and "serves her right for leaving here." Luckily for her she did not give him the real name of her new employer; exactly for that reason as he has a history of contacting former employees new employers and bad mouthing them. I actually have an email that he copied me on, thinking it was funny, wherein he contacted another former employee's new employer and told them what a horrible employee they were, saying they were never at work and were a drug user, etc. ALL LIES to try to get the employee fired from their new employer. That type of behavior is against the law, and yet he has gotten away with it time and time again. I just do not want this man to continue to wrong his employees!

  72. Terri Radomski

    Your health and surviving Cancer are more important than this job and terrible boss. I am sorry you are going through this. It seems there should be laws against this. Years ago, I lost my job after asking my boss (The lead attorney) to have an afternoon off for an ultrasound. He fired me because I was pregnant. I was single at the time too. It was so wrong but maybe a blessing in disguise. I hope your treatment goes well and you find a much better job.

  73. Anonymous

    I was just recently laid off for being pregnant as well.. It was all in very weird timing as my manager made a comment about 'all of those doctor appointments' so I called HR up that day to make sure I was covered and let them know about my pregnancy. Two days later I was put on administrative leave and within a few weeks laid off completely with no reason / explanation. I did speak to an attorney (before any one comes at me with those comments - but its not something I would really get much from).

    I know it had something to do with my manager just not wanting to deal with me whether I was suppose to be protected or not but hopefully its on to bigger and better places. This place was starting to show its not so family friendly side anyway so I had worried it wouldn't be a good place post-pregnancy so here we go. Sucks to be laid off right before the holidays though.

  74. Terri Radomski

    I am so sorry this happened. It happened to me close to Christmas as well. I just went back to my college job taking catalog orders for JC Penney. They didn't care I was pregnant, and it was their very busy season. This baby is now 23. It was still so humiliating when it happened. I wish you the best.

  75. Colleen Hanson

    I'm so sorry to hear this!!! It is just so hard to fathom that there are such miserably heartless people in the world!

  76. Colleen Hanson

    Thank you Terri! It does appear that the State is going to file a Wrongful Termination/Discrimination claim against him on my behalf. I am not sure what that entails, but they said they have mailed to claim to me for my signature. I didn't qualify on the federal level based on the number of employees, but I did qualify on the State level. My cancer care team has also consulted with the hospital's legal department and they are going to reach out to me to see if I qualify financially for their assistance. They are also putting together a list of resources for me. Thank you so much for taking the time to respond!

  77. Anonymous

    Do you have disability insurance? Apply for unemployment benefits... Call an attorney... Make sure you have health insurance coverage.... COBRA will be too expensive without a position.

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