Should I even bother?

Should I even bother? I reached out to a recruiter about a position I'm interested in. The job I'm at now I started a few months ago, and I was at my previous position for a short time, however, before that I was at a company for almost 10 years then got laid off. Won't it look like job hoping?

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  1. Anonymous

    Hopping I mean, ugh.

  2. Anonymous

    Do what's best for you as you're in charge of your life and narrative. If it's a higher level or salary, it's worth making the move. That being said, if you do change jobs, I would plan on staying there for at least a year to give yourself longevity. Good luck!

  3. Anonymous

    I've been in a similar position. I was with a company for a some years before I made the move out to another. I lasted only 3 months in the second one. Now I'm at my third and I will hit a year next month.

    Give yourself enough time to scope the other company and the job prospects, make sure it's where you want to be and what you want to do.

  4. Anonymous

    I don't think that is such a big deal these days.

    Honestly it's what you have accomplished that is most important.

  5. Joanne Rosen

    Hi,

    If you are making a lateral move, then, yes, it will look like job hopping. It might also be a red flag and they may ask why you are leaving and why you left the last position.

    If you get this new job, prepare to stay at least 2 years, even if you hate it. You can't afford another short-term on your resume.

    Cheers

    Joanne Rosen

    Career Coach

  6. Anonymous

    Not a lateral move. And yes, this is a position I would stay at for years.

  7. Anonymous

    Also, I'm very excited about this possibility. It's a role that is not only a good fit for me, but it's where I want to be in my career. Why do you have to say no when the right opportunity presents itself? It may never happen again.

  8. Jennifer

    From my perspective, you don't really have anything to lose here. If the recruiter/hiring manager are concerned, they won't interview you, same result as if you hadn't reached out. On the other hand, if they aren't bothered by your recent short stints, then maybe you get an interview and a better job.

    What made you leave your previous role (company 2) after only a few months? Why are you looking to leave your current role (company 3) after just a few months?

    I can see a pretty clear potential narrative here. You got laid off from your company of 10 years, and because you needed a job to feed and house yourself, you accepted the best thing available in the moment so that you had a paycheck and health insurance. Perhaps you were overqualified, underpaid, or the role was a step back in your career. Regardless, people understand that having paycheck is extremely important, and that sometimes you have to take whatever you can find to survive. Once you were employed, you began looking for a job that was a better fit/paid better/etc, and accept your current role at Company 3.

    The question left to answer is why you are looking to leave Company 3. Having a thoughtful, logical reason will go a long way here.

    If the environment is intolerably toxic, then you should do what is best for you and look for another role. As I said above, it can't hurt, but staying absolutely can hurt.

    Also, this is just my personal observation and opinion, but "job hopping" and "employment gaps" seem to be talked about almost exclusively by Career Coaches/Resume Writers/LinkedIn "Influencers." These aren't people who are currently recruiting or hiring, and too often the advice is outdated and a reflection of the time when employees stayed at companies for 25+ years before retiring with a pension and when getting laid off was not commonplace. Some giving advice in the space have never been hiring managers, and might not have much professional experience at all. so their advice comes from the LinkedIn Influencer echo chamber. This doesn't mean that they're ill-intentioned, or that they can't have good advice, I'm just generally wary of anyone who is trying to sell me their advice.

    Again, this is just my personal opinion, and not an attack on any individual. I point it out because there are also people in recruiting that post about applying/hiring/interviewing topics, yet these career "mistakes" aren't significant enough to warrant discussion.

    My frustration comes from the fact that seeking a new job, potentially while also being unemployed, is scary enough. It's not helpful for job seekers to be trying to figure out if they've already "failed" by having one too many roles, or *gasp* they have a three month employment gap that NO RECRUITER WILL UNDERSTAND, EVER. Better prepare a portfolio to show all the new things you learned when unemployed for three months DURING A GLOBAL PANDEMIC.

    Is there a point where having many jobs for short periods will become concerning? Of course. But there is no official line, and it is heavily influenced by a candidate's background and what the hiring manager is looking for. If the job is "fine" and you're just "meh" about it, then general rule of thumb is to stay a year. This gives time for someone to get onboarded, up to speed, fully assume the responsibilities of the role, develop comfort/proficiency, and have enough familiarity with the role to know they're looking for something different in a position/company or are ready for a new challenge. Lotsa words to say that it shows you gave the position and company a fair shot.

    If it's a bad environment, then just look for a new role. People rarely look back on their time in toxic companies and think "I'm so glad that I spent more time there than necessary because of an arbitrary unwritten rule."

    Also, if that dream job comes up, you don't know if/when it will come up again.

    TL;DR Since COVID, things are a lot more flexible. Do what's best for you. Good luck!

  9. Anonymous

    YOU ARE AMAZING!!! It's like you know me lol. Thank you!!!!!

  10. Joan Williams, Senior Talent Acquisition Specialist

    So, couple of things - first off, if you don't have it already, I would consider adding "RIF" to your resume. It will take the question of why you left a job of ten years right off the table. It can look like this:

    XYZ COMPANY - RIF

    Project Manager

    January 2012 to January 2022

    For any who don't know, RIF mean Reduction In Force (laid off).

    Second, switching positions is not the "scarlet letter" it once was, especially when people can see you were laid off from a long time position. You were at the same company for 10 years, so you're hardly a job hopper.

    Third, you do need to be prepared to answer why you left Company Two after such a short amount of time and why you're looking to make a change again so soon. You didn't say. Don't make it any long drawn out answer and practice it so it's smooth and concise.

    Please let me know if you have any questions. GOOD LUCK!

  11. JJ

    I am a proud confirmed job hopper and I recently landed my best job and nearly doubled my income. Itโ€™s WHY you hopped that makes a difference.

  12. Anonymous

    So amazing, thank you!

  13. Anne Zavorskas

    Super reaffirming JJ thank you!!

  14. Joan Williams, Senior Talent Acquisition Specialist

    Well, as a recruiter with over 20 years experience I can say I'm glad my candidate's resumes are reviewed by me and not you.

    I have no idea why you would "delete" a resume because someone was RIFd.

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