Is this what hiring practices are like these days?

Is this what hiring practices are like these days?

I recently completed a phone interview at a behavioral health facility. There are some red flags that are making me rethink the viability - not to mention employee satisfaction of the job.

The person who has not interviewed me twice, once by phone and once via video, would not be my direct supervisor. Nor does her role play a part in the department that I would head up. She stated that she feels it's important for her to oversee hiring even though she then has very little to do with employees as she works strictly in another department.

She spent most of the phone interview and the video interview talking, and asked me very few questions. At the end of the vidoe interview she invited me to a 3rd interview, in-person. She stated that it would be an all day process where I would meet with all directors, including the one I would potentially be replacing.

I can appreciate wanting to get a lay of the land from both sides of the aisle - they all get to meet me and I get to meet all of them... but it feels presumptive to think a candidate can set aside an entire day on such short notice.

There have been other red flags. She asked to conduct the screening in the evening. She stated during that call that while "most work" can be completed during the work day, there will be times when I will need to be available afterhours to speak with clients. But in the same breath she alludes to the idea that the agency supports a work-life balance.

During the day-long interview, I will be attending staffings with clinicians where they will be discussing patient information - which feels like a HIPAA violation.

Lots of red flags and I get the sense they do not have healthy professional boundaries. Part of me, that has a slight curiosity about this odd situation, wants to attend the interview to see how the agency really operates. I can get a good sense - thanks to my profession - of who employees are and what the climate of the office will be like.

Has anyone else experienced this? Has anyone else completed a day long interview like this? What are everyone's general thoughts about this type of ask from a potential employer?

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  1. Anonymous

    Looking at all these "red flags" that you mentioned, aside from having a slight curiosity, how else do you feel spending a day-long interview with a place where you likely won't want to work at will serve you?

    My two cents is to take a pass on this and save your time for something else.

    As an HR practitioner, I'd tell you this isn't common practice and depending on where this company is based in, they would likely owe you pay for the day-long "interview."

  2. Anonymous

    Well, first off the whole scenario of the person interviewing you that has nothing to do with you when you start working is odd. Like you, I'd be really curious what in the world is up with this organization, but maybe it's worth going through it. I have a slight suspicion that the others you meet with either be A. so awful you will need to run, or B. be excellent professionals

    I don't think HIPAA violation is an issue as the discussion is with clinicians. I would ask in your QandA or interject if they don't allow you to ask questions if any of you sign HIPAA and/or confidentiality agreements. Like me, in higher ed, we abide by FERPA, sign the FERPA agreement and sign confidentiality agreements so we can discuss students and say their names with staff only that pertains to those students. We in no way share any information outside of the community ever. So it sounds like your gut is talking to you. Hold it close, and listen to it. It is not trying to fool you. You sound like you are very up on this industry you are in and are worried about the agency being on the up and up. A part of me agrees, RUN. Another part, bow out gracefully and move on to another agency or another part of your industry. Keep this in mind, if you join, it brands you. You represent this organization that may have a really terrible reputation. Look up the county records of the org in your city, state, county, and look at law suits. It's easy to find. I am a former recruiter, I can find anything. And what I've learned in my education of psychology/social work and being a recruiter, your gut is always right. Keep us posted!

  3. Anonymous

    A day-long interview during which you attend meetings where client information is shared is a huge red flag unless the clients will all be de-identified and referred to by a number (or potentially an initial or first name only, as long as they are common names). There are several ways to do this that meet HIPAA and IRB (if it is part of a study program) requirements. What is the purpose of you attending such a meeting? What would they expect you to contribute? It's one thing if they are flying you in for the interview and offering relocation, but if the company is local and they expect you to take a day off work or otherwise use a full day, that is a bit much. You should see if they could break it into a few smaller meetings. This is why there are typically three or four rounds of interviews.

  4. Anonymous

    Considering you are sensing so many red flags, then the job isn't for you.

  5. Anonymous

    Red flags all over. Run while you can

  6. Anonymous

    Sounds like a lot of work with out compensation. To take a whole day and attend meetings without signing confidentiality agreements is really sloppy! When they announce that you’ll be expected to be available to

    clients after hours don’t assume it will be a rare occurrence. Decide if this works for you and you would be fairly compensated. I’m always curious and if I’d gone this far I’d be interested in seeing what the meetings are like and who your colleagues would be. You are not required to take the job. If you do go through with the interview I hope you update us on what happened

  7. JB09718

    I’m not as worried about the person interviewing you not being your direct supervisor, I feel like different managers look for different things and sometimes it’s helpful to have outside perspective. (If she’s your direct supervisor’s supervisor, maybe she’s micromanaging?) It also sounds like she personally doesn’t have boundaries when it comes to work and personal life, doesn’t necessarily mean everyone in the organization is the same. Overall, I would be curious and go to the meeting. If you know work-life balance might be an issue, you can set firm boundaries upfront. For the client meetings, it’s possible they have a workaround to prevent a violation. You’re familiar with HIPAA and if there is a violation you can excuse yourself from the meeting and raise your concerns. You’ve only interviewed with one person (if I read that right) and you could get a better vibe from the others you meet that day. If you do go to the meeting though, please report back with an update!

  8. Anonymous

    That's what interviewing is for--you get a chance to see what the people and environment are like. If you like/ need aspects of the job, keep progressing through the interview. If not, you can find a polite way to exit.

    I've had interviews like this. If this person is not your direct supervisor, she's either really involved and pushing boundaries OR another consideration is that there's been a lot of turnover and she's looking for someone who'll stay. Either way, if she does most of the talking - listen.

    Good luck with your choice.

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