UPDATE TO THE UPDATE:

UPDATE TO THE UPDATE:

As I noted in my previous post, 2024 has not been a great year for me. After resigning from my position, I took some time off to reflect on what had happened, why it occurred, whether I could have handled things differently, and if I would ever get a second chance to work before my original plan to retire at 63.

I wasn't very proactive in my job search because I wanted to take a break. Having worked since I was 14, I felt it was important to just "be" and recuperate from the harassment I faced at my previous job, which ultimately led to my resignation.

Recently, I received a call from a former coworker about a job in a similar field that I felt I would be a great fit for. I submitted my resume and cover letter, and I was invited for an interview. During the interview, I mentioned that I had visited their website to better understand the responsibilities of the position, but I noticed that neither the position nor the federally funded program was listed there. This program is statewide—every county has a team for it, except for this particular county. When I pointed this out to the interview panel, they exchanged glances, seemingly surprised that this information was missing. None of the ten panel members were aware that it wasn't on their website.

The rest of the interview went well, and I sent thank-you emails to each panel member afterward. I later received an email stating that second interviews would be held and that I would be personally contacted by the supervisor. However, instead of a call, I received an email informing me that the position had been filled.

What struck me as odd was that in both of their emails, the job title mentioned was different from the one I originally applied for. It felt as if the position I applied for had morphed into a couple of other roles. This seems quite shady to me. Now I wonder if my answers during the interview were inadequate because I was responding based on the job description I had applied for.

I'm not upset about not getting the job; I believe everything happens for a reason. However, after this experience and reading countless stories of older women being overlooked for jobs, I find myself questioning whether I should continue to look for work or be satisfied with my life as it is, even without the job I enjoy.

Interestingly, I did not tell my family that I wasn't offered the job, and only a few close friends knew I had applied. I had a feeling things might turn out this way. Looking back, I realize that one person's actions have caused a great deal of uncertainty in my life. I'm pretty sure they haven't given it a second thought, especially now that they’ve found someone to take on my previous position after six months.

I apologize if I sound bitter; I just never expected to be in this situation at this point in my life.

UPDATE:

I resigned from my position today after serving 25 years in the same department. As some may remember or read I was placed on a PIP. During the PIP process I was out on FMLA due to an on-going physical issue from mid-May until today. Although I was at home healing I would receive annoying emails from my supervisor, don't forget to enter your timesheet, to send your Dr's note, on an on. I have read every policy regarding PIPs, the various letters you could receive depending on the situation. There are 4 or 5 example letters for why you failed the PIP and 1 that you made it through the process. This find just solidified for me that I was going to get one of the 4 or 5 letters telling me to pack my stuff, you are outta here! I haven't received any correspondence regarding my resignation, other than an email from my supervisor thanking me for my years of sevice and best of luck with my future endeavors. I am 59 years old! I was working as a professional bwhile they were still in high school! I have never felt having a younger supervisor was an issue. This time I feel the condescending tone and the level of immaturity I was dealing with. They got what they wanted, I'm gone. I have several friends that checked in on me today and even have a few leads on a couple of open positions where my experience would be utilized. Everything happens for a reason. Not sure what the reason is but I already feel less anxious and less hopeless. I will miss those I worked with and those I served. Don’t get me wrong the celebration at the local Mexican restaurant is planned. Remember my wonderful women, know your worth. My worth was not being recognized by my previous employer. I won't wait as long to leave if there's a next time.

I've been with my current employer for 25 years.

I've always had good performance evals, until 2+ years ago when I got a new supervisor. My 1st PE with them was unsatisfactory! I was blown away. They have been padding my P-file with letters of expectations, I was investigating twice for things I would never do. One was unfounded they other I was disciplined. Since then I've been put on a PIP. I'm devastated. I love what I do even now with all the BS this sup has thrown on me. I was planning to retire in 4 years. With this PIP I could be terminated. This issue has caused more mental health issues for me. I don't want to quit. But I don't want to be terminated. Finding another job with my salary or close to it in my age group is nearly impossible. I can't lose my insurance, my husband became disabled and his case has not been finalized. My income is the only income. I'm scared to imagine either situation. I've looked into jobs on-line but it always seems like a scam, really don't know what to do.

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  1. Anonymous

    I have thought of this reason since this all started. HR is not going to help me. I can't afford an attorney. I feel powerless abd stuck. How do I even prove this?

  2. Rebecca Ruettiger

    They are 100% trying to force you out with a pip so they don’t have to pay you for retirement

  3. Anonymous

    There wasting a lot of my time and there's with the explanation of what I did well those 2 weeks and what I haven't.
    And it's all over the place.

  4. Judith Sheehan

    Or hire someone at a lower rate.

  5. Anonymous

    This job is coming to an end, the writing is on the wall and the train has left the station. Give yourself another day to agonize about this then do some scenario planning. You can wait until they fire you and you can try to negotiate some severance or an extended departure date. You can approach them and say: it’s obvious this relationship is coming to an end, can we talk about an exit package and some extended health coverage. You could look at transfers to another department if you’re eligible for them. And you can aggressively start looking for a new job since you’re the sole provider in your household.

    I’m sorry this is happening but please don’t remain paralyzed by this situation so you’re caught flat footed. Can you shift money that might be going to a 401k back into an emergency fund, should you get fired, so it’s liquid? Do you have any debt that can quickly be paid off that will ease financial pressure during a potential period of unemployment?

    Start aggressively networking and make sure your resume is up to date. While a job search isn’t desirable it sounds likely given what you’ve laid out in your post.

  6. Anonymous

    Thanks...I have been agonizing over this.
    My friends have said to quit. Hearing from someone who doesn't know me makes it more real. Do I continue to work without saying anything do I give my 2-weeks? I have a few clients that I need to tie up loose ends. Part of me wants to be like I need a vacation, then use my sabbatical and earned time off and then give my 2-weeks without having to go back.

  7. Anonymous

    Why on earth would you quit without another job? Half of your post is about you being the sole income earner in your household! Let them fire you and give you a severance package. Straight talk express: while I appreciate you wanting to tie up loose ends with clients, they’re not going to give you a second thought once you’re out the door. Focus on yourself and your household instead of extending courtesies that will never be returned to you.

  8. Anonymous

    Make plans for termination. A strict budget, a side job fir extra cushion, a plan to get medical coverage if terminated. Get very practical. I understand being scared to imagine but you don't have control over the situation. You must prepare while you are still employed.

  9. Anonymous

    If you have an EEOC coordinator at your company (it would be in HR), talk with them first. Any hint of an age discrimination complaint could get them to back away, if there is no basis for the PIP or their other performance claims. The best thing you can do is keep your head down, start looking now for another (or as someone else suggested a transfer to another department), and if they decide to terminate you, file for unemployment. You would also be eligible for Medicaid or reduced-price insurance on the healthcare exchange. Is the four-year benchmark for retirement when you become fully eligible for Social Security or is there a vesting program in a company retirement package that requires you to work for them for 30 years for full vesting? If you are relying on SSA retirement, check out the SSA.gov website (if you haven't already) to plan the best time to start your benefits. They have some exceptional tools for retirement planning there, and if you set up an account there, it will tell you exactly what your benefits will be if you retire now or in the future.

  10. Anonymous

    Get a good employment lawyer as this can be a case of age discrimination. You have a long tenure of no performance issue and then all of a sudden being forced out when you are close to retirement. Filing an EO complaint like the post stated above might be a good choice to have them back away rather than facing legal ramifications so you can just finish your 4 year and retire in peace

  11. GirlBossanova934974

    In 4 decades in the workforce, I have never heard of a "Letter of Expectation". Letters of Reprimand, yes! What we have here is a basic case of age discrimination aka an attempt to railroad an older employee out the door. As of now, you need to be collecting written evidence. Emails, performance reviews, and the employee handbook. All of the paperwork/electronic correspondence you have had going back and forth between you and the new supervisor. Next you need to get going on a job search. The vast majority of online job postings are LEGIT! People with experience are paid good money. Work with your in person network as well. This company you are working for is NOT NOT the do all end all of the working world. There are plenty more worthwhile companies to work for.

  12. Anonymous

    I wish this page had a "hug" button! I'm so sorry for you! I'm in a similar situation and the job market is not looking for us even though we have great work ethic and years of valuable experience.

  13. Focused721350

    Good Morning,

    I'm so sorry to hear what your going through. But! it sounds to me that someone wants you out! Only my opinion. But! if you think about it seriously! Why! After all these yrs you've done excellent and now you have this person come in and basically throwing you under the bus and or making you look so bad! I personally would Lawyer up. It's like they are pushing you to quit or falsely fire you for whatever reason. Which is you seem to be there to long and they are making so uncomfortable. Whatever you do don't let them stress you or push you to that point to quit! GIVE THEM A FIGHT! YOU PUT TO MANY HARD YEARS FOR THIS COMPANY AND YOU DESERVE SO MUCH RESPECT!

    God bless and wish you all the Best! Ms. T ;)

    PS. REMEMBER! FIGHT HARD AND NEVER GIVE UP!

  14. Anonymous

    100% ^^^^

  15. Anonymous

    Lawyer up, write professional rebuttals when needed for things that are not correct. Be sure you document any suspicion of ageism because it sure sounds like that is a possible path they are taking.

  16. Anonymous

    Don't quit! Contact a lawyer. Wait for the to offer an exit package for the years you worked!

  17. Anonymous

    DO NOT QUIT. get an attorney immediately (like yesterday) and get barriers put into place. You are too close to retirement to lose everything becuase of an unjust supervisor. Please talk with a lawyer asap, keep record of EVERY communication and be very careful in how you communicate back.

  18. Marian Davidson

    This seems to be a recurring story: long term successful employees suddenly being put on PIP’s and getting a sudden poor review.

    It is the way new management clears the way to replace workers with newer cheaper workers or outsource work.

    There is good advice here: Do not resign. Seek the advice of an employment attorney. Look for a new job (if it seems inevitable they will eliminate you) and make the move before they terminate you.

    Important: Do not “train” anyone else on how to do your job (dodge and weave); Download your personal files (personal letters, correspondence, personal passwords) onto a thumb drive and delete from your work computer; Start a personal file of any samples of work or contacts that can help you in a new job. Be prepared— then just do a good job until any changes happen (whether you or the company instigates it).

    Sadly, most states are “at will” employment, meaning that employers can terminate you any time for no reason. Just be ready, because if they want to eliminate you, there is little chance to stop them. They are just building up a defense case by suddenly finding your work unsatisfactory and putting you on a PIP. Good luck !

  19. Christi Lopez

    This right here. All of this. Get your evidence in order, make sure you have copies off company servers, build your portfolio of examples, and learn all you can to keep current on technology and industry standards. Also, know that you are not responsible for the next person they bring in. The company is making choices that are not in their best interest.

  20. Anonymous

    They want to let OP go "with cause" to avoid unemployment or severance. It's evil.

  21. Anonymous

    Something similar happened to me, I was able to negotiate a severance package and get out. It was a little tricky, as there were 2-3 people who were in charge/owners. I knew I would have one on my side, for me leaving with a payout that is, one more was convinced by the first and then the 3rd was outnumbered. The meeting I had was about my performance and how working there was damaging my health, mentally and physically. I am not sure this will work for all or any but it was the way I was able to leave with some benefit, I was there 10 years. I hope this helps, it can be done.

  22. Anonymous

    I think when I started my career I thought I'd do as my parents did. Be loyal to your employer, work hard, be on time. None of that matters any more. It's really who's boots are you willing to lick and losing your integrity is ok if it gets you somewhere. I wish no one to ever lose their job or go through what sounds like a lot more people than I thought. I have documentation and I've gone through the process of turning it in to HR, it was the same thing, the behavior doesn't quite meet the level for discipline. This supervisor is a piece of work they're reading the same blogs I read, but in reverse. Thank you for reaching out I appreciate you sharing you experiences.

  23. Anonymous

    Staying with one employer these days for your entire career is extremely rare. 25 years is a very long time. Them wanting to clean house is not surprising.

    I would use this time to get ready for termination.

  24. Anonymous

    I know. I have a couple of months in sabbatical and earned vacation. I am going to something. At 58 I more than capable of working, wherever that may be.

  25. Alley Keosheyan

    Agree - they're probably having visions of $$ signs dancing in their heads thinking about the potential savings of replacing her with a younger, less experienced worker who will do the job for less money. Probably not a matter of "if" but of "when."

  26. Anonymous

    I went through a similar ordeal a few years ago after a merger and being assigned to an incompetent supervisor/director. After having a stellar record for 20+ years, I was furious. It was exhausting, mentally, and took an unimaginable amount of time; but I went to bat. I refused to let a new, incompetent person push me out of a job/agency I always felt loyal to. I asked people who I had work with and clients I had helped, to send in emails documenting my work. I put in formal complaints against her with HR and after a series of rebuttals of her 3- page indictment-write up, she was forced to withdraw it and I was absolved. After that, she let me concentrate on doing my job. A few months later, I was promoted with a higher salary and remote job. And, she was fired! At the start of the merger, many people left after the same sort of treatment, after being at the agency for years. I wish they had fought back and stayed. Gone at the days when longevity at work was a source of pride. Many employers seem content with high turn overs and the easy fix of hiring new people, even at the expense of children served. I'm from the school of thought that when a person puts in decades of dedication to their work, it's commendable and exemplary. This week I'm attending the annual anniversary event for my agency. I made 25 years on 5/3. It was difficult, but I am proud as hell that I did not let that one incompetent person run me off.

  27. Anonymous

    Allow me to be devil’s advocate…every time I’m employed somewhere a while, I develop bad habits. Is it possible they just want you to work differently? Could it be time to adjust to new expectations? I know it sucks, but see this as an opportunity to grow. If you don’t want that, retire early.

  28. Anonymous

    58 is too young for social security or Medicare

  29. Joanne G. Murphy

    Hah! 25 years and suddenly she's incompetent? No, I don't think so.

    It's about the same thing it is always about: Bottom line thinking and corporate greed.

  30. Anonymous

    I had a very similar experience. Document everything! You may have an ageism case. Forward all relevant emails to a personal account. Send emails to your supervisor documenting your accomplishments and summarizing your conversations. If it's legal where you live, use the voice recorder on your phone to record your conversations. Email or talk to your supervisor's supervisor (who is in on this) asking for a transfer and documenting the bullying. I did all those things and also pulled in HR eventually (documenting). HR smelled a losing lawsuit and I was let go with a year's severance. I really suffered, and needed therapy just to hold myself together. Invest in your personal life and just know you are not alone.

  31. Anonymous

    I know it all seems overwhelming but this seems to be happening more often . Long term employees being pushed out by new management. There are legit sites for Remote jobs- you just have to investigate the company . Hope things get better .

  32. Alley Keosheyan

    Hate to be a Debbie Downer, but I don't think it's a matter of "if" but of "when" they terminate you. It sounds like this new supervisor wants to get rid of you and is fishing for justification to do so. After 25+ years with the same employer, you probably command a good salary and benefits, and they're probably seeing $$ signs potentially saved by replacing you with a younger, less experienced worker willing to do your job for lower pay. As other posters have advised, document everything. Start looking into what it would cost to continue your insurance through COBRA. Save every dollar you can; I know it's hard with a disabled spouse and SSDI not being finalized yet (I've been there). And if necessary, bring in HR (if they haven't been swayed to the interloper's point of view), or start talking to attorneys, preferably one with a good record of handling age discrimination cases.

  33. Anonymous

    Sorry. The handwriting is already there. I have been there.

    If anyone had told me that I could live in less than half of my previous salary, I wouldn't have believed it. It got to the point, that I just quit, it wasn't worth it.

    Now, I work 2 menial jobs, no where near my last salary. But, I am making it. I have full benefits at one job, and my other job I make just enough money to not worry about bills.

  34. Anonymous

    It’s simple. You cost too much and the manager doesn’t want you in their budget. That’s what all this is about. I would consult an attorney before you lose your retirement.

    can you take it earlier that 4 years from now?

  35. Anonymous

    I was in the same boat before I got laid off three years ago (after 35 years with my then-current company). So did thousands of my colleagues in the same boat.

    I don't mean this harshly, but you're not special; this isn't just happening to you, and it's not about you. I know this is supposed to make you feel better, but it doesn't.

    After three years, I am still struggling. I have not found a job, and my reasons are also personal due to family care I did not expect.

    Try to go with dignity. Keep your head high. Get busy updating your LinkedIn. Get busy increasing your skills. Get current with the latest terms and lingo of the job market. I know you say you are going to retire in four years. Just in case you don't, it's best to increase your skills. Your brain should learn new things, anyway.

    Easy for me to say, "Don't fear." I am a single parent. The only income; already used up most of my 401K, and started in my 60's. But I am not giving up. "They're not getting me down." As Mohamad Ali said in one of his movies. lol

  36. na1102

    I was in the same boat. Don’t quit. Kitchen germinate you (if they do)?and apply for unemployment immediately. At least that will help financially. If you are not a union member, an employer can terminate you and really nothing you can do. Check your employer manual. I’m sorry you are going through this. Is there a different dept you can move to get away from this supervisor?

  37. Anonymous

    Retire now

  38. Michelle Sisko

    They are pushing you out. Retire now before you loose any retirement benefits you would get. If you are terminated you loose everything.

  39. Marcia Smith

    I agree with the many other posts here. I know it is hard not to take this personally - but listen to the stories of SO MANY other women near retiring age who are being shoved out of their positions - and companies can only do this if they have a paper trail - even if the issues are totally made up. Nothing is more important than your mental and physical health. Get out - or start looking for a new job...I'm 57 and was able to find a GREAT new job where I'm respected - so good employers are out there, they are just hard to find. I would also take advantage of any counseling or mental health support your employer/insurance provides. Sending you love, light and hope for a better work environment :)

  40. Anonymous

    Go look for an employment lawyer willing to work on commission because it sounds to me like a lawsuit waiting to happen. Age discrimination is against the law, and this seems pretty clear from the way you are telling it. 25 years and no issues then suddenly...

    Also the creation of a hostile work environment that forces you to resign is not legal, and you could very well walk away with your full pension if you take it to court.

    If you feel painted into a corner, finding a lawyer cannot hurt.

  41. Kimberly McKenzie-Klemm

    It sounds like they would like to fire you or force you to quit before they have to pay retirement. If you stay and duke it out, you might be capable of applying for unemployment in a worse case scenario.

  42. Anonymous

    Wow! So sorry you’re going through this.

    Start looking for a new job AND a lawyer.

    It’s a great time to look for a job because you already have one and it’s slightly less pressure than trying to find one with the added stress of unemployment and making ends meet. And you want to get ahead of it.

    Also you want to consult a lawyer now because no matter what happens, if you take action, it could be years before you receive a favorable outcome. And if they do somehow decide to terminate you don’t sign ANYTHING without consulting an attorney. If they’ve already decided to terminate you there’s literally nothing more they can do if you refuse to sign something before having an attorney review it.

    DOCUMENT everything!!! If you have a convo with your supervisor document it. And make sure you have ongoing conversations where you’re actively asking for feedback and ways to improve and then follow up with documentation about what you asked and document the responses you got. This way you’re getting ahead of any “performance” issues. If they rate you low at an annual review they’ll need to have a solid paper trail that substantiates the low ratings—otherwise it just seems like discrimination.

  43. Anonymous

    I've also experienced something similar.
    Many of us who are older are "replaced" by younger individuals willing to accept lower pay for the chance to do precisely what we've been doing. Stay strong and take proactive steps. I like the advice of the person below my comment.

  44. Julie E

    I would save copies of all of your positive performance reviews and accolades and build a timeline of when things started to south and include when the new manager took over. Then hire an attorney. I would not just let this go and if possible, I would make an example of them so this kind of behavior stops.

  45. Anonymous

    Great advice!

  46. LORI-ANN BURLINGAME

    Did you have a 1:1 with your supervisor/HR to discuss these issues prior to the PIP?

    Have you heard of The Age Discrimination in Employment Act? If not, you may want to look into it. Please see the next paragraph for some information.

    If you are an older worker, federal law provides certain legal protections for you in the workplace. The Age Discrimination in Employment Act (“ ADEA ”), 29 U.S.C. § 621, et seq., protects most workers who are 40 years old or older from employment discrimination based on their age. (are workers over 50 protected? - Search (bing.com)

    Remember, self-empowerment is the best protection against unfairness.

  47. Anonymous

    Hello, PIP is exactly the way for the employer to get out of this legal risk!

  48. Michelle Martinez

    True, but it happens all the time.

  49. Anonymous

    Everyone is talking about a lawyer, they cost you thousands and does not help you at all in this situation, PIP is exactly the way your employer can get out of discrimination risk by making this legal to replace you with a less costly labor. There is nothing a lawyer can do!!!

  50. Anonymous

    Lawyers charge by hour they will only cost your wallet and make you broke

  51. Anonymous

    Choose the path that benefits you the most financially including cost of engaging a lawyer dont listen to all the people telling you to pay a lawyer and seek legal action you will not win only lose thousands on a lawyer who gets paid 300 an hour and has no consequence if you don’t win you have no chance of winning to go against discrimination, take the path that benefits you most financially

  52. Anonymous

    You have to love the people telling her to retire. They must be “new,” or of a certain generation that was able to actually retire. Not many people work because they want to. Check your privilege!

  53. Anonymous

    Sounds like they’re trying to make you quit.

  54. Anonymous

    Where is the HR department in all this? Age maybe a factor here for sure. What state are you in? Right to work states means mo reason needed to terminate. Have you received, verbal, then written warnings, did your manager provide you with a written outline of how to succeed? Realize you may not be doing anything wrong maybe the company needs to down size and your salary is part of the consideration. If you are advised to sign anything then sign and wrote, do not agree, or contested. Always request a copy of any written document and keep it. Respond in writting to your “understanding ” of all meetings and in writing request specific examples, do you have a written copy of expectations or a job description. This is where companies create liabilities to themselves. Best to you come in do your job, request a weekly discussion with your manager AND an HR rep too. HR should be neutral they are there to protect the company from liability.

  55. Anonymous

    Remember, HR is there to protect the company not the employee.

  56. DeborahORell

    DON'T QUIT. That will really mess things up on a number of levels.

    You have to ask yourself WHY? What after almost 25 years is your performance a problem? Maybe it doesn't have anything to do with your actual performance. Maybe your employer wants to eliminate a higher salary?

    When a negative review pops up like this we find it often has to do with some possible discriminatory reason. Your age, race, gender, disability, etc.

    Look at you are being treated in comparison to your coworkers or contemporaries. What are you noticing?

    This sounds awfully suspicious to me. Maybe contact an employment discrimination attorney in your state. or reach out to me.

  57. Anonymous

    Same happened to me.
    I hung in there and was given the choice to retire, resign, or be terminated.
    Who do they think they are to tell me to retire! Right there I should have slapped them with a lawsuit.
    After talking to attorneys, I resigned and accepted a 3month severance with insurance too.that ends June 1 and still have no job. I'm 60. Attorneys said settlement is usually about 40k . I made 6 figures and will never get that again for what I did. They suck, God's good, and I will be ok. Hang in there look for a job and make them pay you to leave!

  58. Anonymous

    Start documenting it sounds like to me that they are trying to terminate you do to your age, especially since you are close to retirement age.

    Have you thought about becoming self-employed and getting your insurance for you and your husband through your state's health plan finder. I normally purchase mine through my state's health plan finder, and my husband gets his through his employer (it's too expensive for me to get my own through his employer-his employer for my share is about $800 per month in addition to his $400 per month employee cost, I can usually get a slightly better plan for about $175 to $225 per month for just myself), this year though I qualified for medicaid for the next year in my state due to my husband having his hours significantly reduced at the beginning of the year (went from 40 hours a week down to 24 to 32 hours a week), they are back up to 40 hours a week again at least for now. However, my husband is currently our sole income, and I don't qualify for disability even though I'm considered traditionally unemployable due to my various disabilities, so I'm self-employed instead. However, due to a bunch of legal issues we have been experiencing involving our house for the last couple of years, I haven't been able to work, and we ended up losing our home through no fault of our own, as it was foreclosed upon because we had an unethical contractor file a fraudulent lien on our property and we couldn't come up with the full amount owed on our property to pay our loan off when the mortgage company recalled our entire loan, despite us being on a forbearance plan (agreed upon temporary pause on payments between both the mortgage company, and myself and my husband). Once, we get moved I'll finally be able to get back to work, which will help improve our financial situation.

    Depending on what you currently do, you could open up your own small business and do contract work through a site like freelancer, which would allow you to submit a bid for anything that you think would work for you and your current situation. There are legitimate sites out there to do these sorts of things.

    Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

  59. Anonymous

    This is a type of game-playing BS that you do not deserve. It is very typical in today's business climate. Get legal counsel immediately and document every single detail. It is terrible but not incredible.

    Best of luck to you. Take care of your health as well.

  60. Anonymous

    This is very stressful. I hope you're documenting all of this and have your history of PE's during your tenure. This sounds like the classic process for terminating tenured, highly paid workers. Gather your documents, journal daily and consult an employment lawyer. Do not talk to anyone at work; you'll sabotage your efforts toward resolution. Again, consult a lawyer that can advise on your options. Also, if discharged you can dispute file a DOL EEOC. If you resign you're NOT entitled to UC that you'll need as some source of income. Start taking any accumulated time you won't be paid out now. You can use the mental break to think clearly. Seek a medical help to get that mental health assistance they're causing you and to get approved for FMLA. They can/may deny your time off but may pay it out under FMLA. FMLA is a straightforward, easy process but you're responsible for taking the PROPER STEPS. Get informed with information. The FMLA guide and forms are online and most doctor's have them and or know the process as well. Get that doctor's note suggesting the time is needed. There are cases where a lawyer can negotiate a settlement at a savings to them. My point, buy time and do what you have to do for you. Finances will be an issue regardless of the outcome and when stressed out you can't think clearly. Finally, 25 years is a lifetime and you may be comfortable. Breathe and know that change can be good based on our outlook. SO MOVE >>>>>> :-)

  61. Anonymous

    Actually, in many states they have a law regarding unemployment where it says if you can prove that another reasonable person would resign under the same or similar circumstances, then you are legally entitled to unemployment just like you would have been if you were terminated.

    Also, an EEOC complaint should be filed prior to being terminated, if she decides to do so, because if she files it while she's still employed it's illegal for her employer to fire or otherwise discharge her during an ongoing investigation, as it would be considered retaliation for her filing a complaint.

    I filed a complaint against my former employer for workplace discrimination based on disability and workplace harassment due to my being disabled, as well as for them creating a hostile work environment. I started documenting before I was terminated and I was able to prove my claim, and I had ample evidence against them of discrimination and/or harassment against other disabled employees as well in addition to what I experienced, so my former employer decided to settle with me out of court. I took the money that I received and started my own small business instead, and I'm much happier now, too. So, in the end instead of breaking my spirit which my former employer attempted to do, they set me free and helped me to thrive and to grow into the small business owner that my clients love to work with.

  62. Anonymous

    Sadly this happened to me. I was at a place for 28+ years. Someone got promoted over me and we didn't see eye to eye.

    Since I wouldn't just "leave" I started getting written up. 2 years later I was fired.

    Obviously as a "mature" adult options are limited. While I can't give you my specifics I can tell you you hit every note that I had too.

    I can only offer you emotional support and tell you there is an end to the "**ll" you are currently in.

    Best wishes and a heartfelt hug to you.

  63. Anonymous

    Thank you, hug right back. It makes my stomach turn. I had a friend in a different department run my numbers for retirement. Not that I want to retire, but with sabbatical, earned vacation, I'll be "on the books" until October. That gives me time to relax and not worry and stress about all this. It will be a huge change for me. Thank you again for sharing. I don't feel like I'm the horrible employee unable to perform my job. I just can't do it to this Sups outrageous level of performance.

  64. JoAnn

    I am so sorry you are going through this.
    Why cant they just leave their workers alone and let them, dare I say it, WORK. Unfortunately, they are absoutely pushing you out the door, for whatever reason they have. (more than likely your age, but sadly very hard to prove) Be pro active for youself. Follow the PIP, don't act disgruntaled, make small pleasant chit chat, get your resume updateed - and then decide what your next step should be.

  65. Anonymous

    Thank you for the encouragement and saying the hard truth of situation.

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