How do you deal with coworkers who try to micromanage you and undermine you and your boss.?

How do you deal with coworkers who try to micromanage you and undermine you and your boss.?

Has anyone else had to deal with coworkers who feel threatened by more experienced people joining the team dominate every meeting and try to micro manage the way I work or which assignments I do (which only my boss has authority to do as I directly report into them) I am also several levels/ years of experience above one of the colleagues and I have a separate role to them. Where do you draw the line between micromanaging and bullying? Is this something to report to HR?

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  1. Anonymous

    Yep!!

    What's worse is they CONSTANTLY say "don't trust.....". Uh, it's this woman I don't trust! She hates everyone and says she wants to "protect me ". I'm 49 yr old, I can take care of myself. She wants me out so she can have my job. She used to have my job but did horrible so they demoted her hoping she'll quit (no unemployment)

    I work in a sea of drama. My job requires what I love but the mental stress and conspiracy theories are debilitating.

    I told the girl yesterday - as my boss said what he wanted - to go talk to him about it. That stopped her!

  2. Anonymous

    Thanks for sharing this.

    I will definitely do the same and direct them to my boss. Sorry this is happening to you also. I think thats defintely the same case for me. Lack of trust and insecurity and them being promoted into roles they no experience or success with. The more praise and success I get for projects by senior leadership, the worse they get. It seems like a bullying tactic to get me to leave! there is such high turnover in our department that I can see that its not just me they have done this to.

  3. Anonymous

    The woman I work with tried to warn me from day 1 to go.
    She constantly asks 'are you ok honey?'
    I want so bad to say "I was ok until you stated asking" but trying to keep the peace.

    I have heard from her (lie?!!) that I'm saying stuff about her as other people tell her -or SUPPOSEDLY tell her.

    I get 100 emails a day, I am a head of accounting and help oversee HR and supplies. I can hardly breathe it seems on my load, much less deal with her stupidity. I'm working to save for travel and retirement not be her co-conspirator.

    She's very insecure. And I'm sick of her.

  4. Anonymous

    Of course you report it.

    Abd each time they do it just smile and say " please report this to my boss and discuss it with HR not me, thanks "

  5. Anonymous

    Thank you this good advice. I will definitely direct them to my boss in future.

  6. Anonymous

    First, your colleagues have no standing to micromanage you or give you assignments: they’re not your boss.
    Second, you’re not perceiving their conduct as friendly or helpful. So their behavior is problematic.

    That said, you’re describing your colleagues as motivated by their insecurity in the face of your superior experience and role. Is there any way to defuse this before heading to HR? Some possibilities:
    -Befriend one or more colleagues. If they realize that you don’t bite, they might back off on the micromanaging.
    -Smile and nod at their suggestions and ignore them.
    -Thank them for their concern, mention that you hold a different role, and explain pleasantly that everyone should stay in their lane.

    If the above approaches fail or already have failed, you can go to HR and your boss about this situation. I’d suggest that you document the problematic behavior in contemporaneous off-site notes to add weight to your complaint.

    If your colleagues’ poor behavior is
    racially motivated (you don’t mention that it is), that is an especially serious problem that warrants HR intervention.

  7. Anonymous

    Thank you for this. very helpful. These are colleagues promoted within and I was hired specifically for my exact experience by my boss. I have tried time and time to be friendly and helpful, but in return they have started excluding me for meetings, putting down every idea I contribute/ shutting me down and big resistors to any kind of change (they are generally difficult unless they get their own way by dominating meetings and being the loudest person in the room. ) I am uncertain if this racially motivated but its definitely a predominantly white company so this makes people of color an easy target. There is also very high turnover in the department and wider company so this is unlikely the first time someone has been pushed out by them. They even openly bad mouth ex bosses.

  8. Anonymous

    I’m adding to my reply on the basis of the additional information that you have supplied.

    You should try my initial suggestions (above) in the hope that this situation can be resolved amicably. But the treatment that you are receiving from your colleagues suggests that the situation might prove difficult to correct on your own.

    When colleagues begin targeting as you describe, it is called “mobbing”— numerous colleagues ganging up on a co-worker. This is toxic behavior and can be difficult to control. From your account of high turnover in your workplace, it appears that your colleagues probably have been successful in harassing others in the past, and have used this approach with impunity.

    The following suggestions are informed by “Mobbed!” by Janice Harper, the best book that I’ve read on the subject of mobbing. (Available online; you’ll likely recognize your situation if you read it.)

    1)Remain outwardly calm, cheerful and cooperative. Document your colleagues’ behavior toward you with off-site contemporaneous notes.
    2)Because you are a POC in a largely white company, you potentially have a legal case that your company is creating or tolerating a hostile work environment. This is illegal under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act.
    3)If circumstances continue to deteriorate, a reasonable course of action might be to consult an experienced, plaintiff-side (ie represents employees) employment lawyer. If you take this course, find the best, toughest plaintiff’s employment lawyer available, not a general practice firm. The first consult should be free. Note: if other POCs in your company are also being harassed, a class action suit potentially could be brought. Lawyers love class action suits.
    4)Bringing a discrimination lawsuit against a company usually results in a financial settlement subject to a non-disclosure agreement, with your lawyer taking 30% or 40% of the settlement as a fee. Except in the case of a class action suit (which results in company-wide policy changes), the complaining employee usually leaves the company after the settlement is received. Alternatively, if you aren’t looking for a financial settlement, you’d be responsible for the lawyer’s time and expenses. The latter may be a reasonable course of action if the situation can be resolved simply, e.g. by the attorney writing a warning letter to the company about how you are being treated.
    5)You will likely be required to exhaust all administrative remedies (formal complaint to HR, HR investigation, company’s remediation attempt, etc.) before a lawsuit can be brought. Best to initiate this process under your own lawyer’s guidance, so that you make no missteps.
    6)All of the above can be exhausting, but you are fortunate in one respect: the conduct that you are experiencing is illegal because you are a POC. Title VII suits can be brought only on the basis of discrimination based on race, religion, ethnicity, gender or sexual orientation. (Age discrimination is also illegal, but is not covered under Title VII; penalties for age discrimination are less severe.)
    7)It’s unclear to me whether or not you can resolve this situation without the help of an attorney, because it seems that the company has tolerated the behavior of your colleagues in the past. But it’s reasonable to try to defuse the situation informally before bringing legal action.

  9. Anonymous

    Thank you for this.
    I have since writing this followed the great tips supplied and this is what happened:
    Mentioned to boss about the micromanagement and change of culture and without mentioning specifics the type of issues encountered. also that I report into boss and not them.directing colleagues to my boss for clarification and then not continuing the conversation i also said all the above to all parties in the most polite and professional way.
    boss will not take up those conversations to set expectations.

    these are not people you can easily come to an understanding with as they are negative employees who blame anyone rather than themselves so will leave it to boss to people manage them.
    in meantime i remaking as calm polite and outwardly happy as possible!
    thank you for the book recommendation also! Such great advice all round. Thank you

  10. Anonymous

    I am so happy that you are handling this so well and that your boss has been so supportive.

    Here is to your happiness and success!

  11. Anonymous

    Been there done that...

    Yes, report it.

    If she comes over and tries to insert herself into your work, interrupt and ask her if she needs something because you are busy right now.

    If she emails you, only respond to "legitimate" requests. You can either ignore any emails consisting of slights and her trying to assert dominance or reply with, "I'm sorry, but maybe I misunderstood your email. Do you need something?" In my case, I ignored the garbage emails.

    Usually, people who behave the way you described are not interested in friendship and will only use your niceness against you. In my case, I kept it professional because strong boundaries were needed. That worked.

  12. Anonymous

    Thank you for the advice.
    Totally agree. Stronger boundaries and keeping it professional is best approach for now to cope in the short term.

  13. Anonymous

    Document every instance or pattern.

    If they say something offensive or Kurt one way to break their psychosis is ask hey Karen can you repeat that or can you tell me what you mean by that? Do it innocently and not in a confrontational way bc we all know how Karen’s are quick to call poc aggressive when we are not. If the problem persist talk to your mgr to see if they can help with establishing healthy boundaries before going to HR.

    if she ask you questions about your work be vague or even lie if it helps to throw the wildebeast off your sent

  14. Anonymous

    Thank you for this. You are absolutely right about this. People like that are always quick to label POC as aggressive to make it look like they are the problem!

    Yes i will definitely go to manager first. Thanks for the advice!

  15. M Dingcong

    Thank you for posting. I think I was in a similar situation and didn’t realize it. Except this guy did it mostly when no one was around. I wrote my recruiter that may be this guy was trying to take my work and I didn’t know why. I wrote that it was “absolutely paranoid,” but hey ya never know. Later on, when I quit, I wrote that the guy was just trying to get under my skin. Yes! It worked!

  16. Anonymous

    I have the same situation with one of the colleagues. They are often rude and have been like this from day 1. It's not being paranoid. Some people are just out for themselves to get ahead and throw you under the bus to make themselves look better or worse push you out to get your job!

  17. Anonymous

    I was asked today from a woman that has been after my job for months when I'm going to quit.

    I returned from a vacation today after being out last week and she emailed me mid-day asking if I was wishing I was on my break.

    She's insane and I want nothing more than to distance myself from her. She's VERY paranoid and very insecure

  18. Anonymous

    Yes totally understand this. The more insecure someone is and paranoid the more they feel threatened and the worse they act. It’s similar situation for me it’s a tactic to make you want to leave. People like this think nothing of pushing out other people just to get what they want.

    it seems to either coworkers who want you more senior job/ title or managers who are threatened that you are after their job and you know more than them/ more experienced than them .

  19. SLT

    Very well said! ?!

  20. Crystal Howell

    When this happens again, tell them to contact your direct supervisor and explain to them how they think it should be done.

    Don't engage with them unless you have to, in meetings ask questions to them about a task they don't know about. They should shrink. Good luck, I had one of the wanna be bullies back in the day, and they shrunk in front of all. Nine ways to skin a cat!

  21. Anonymous

    Thank you for this! great advice!

  22. Ebba Haagensen

    I am just wondering if you have ever spoken directly to this person, or spent anytime trying to dissolve the issue with interpersonal communication. ?

    Its very clear how much it is bothering you, and it might be possible that you are coming off as defensive or unwilling.

    If you haven’t made an honest effort to become co workers with this individual (who has their own right to temperament and self) I suggest you give it a shot and save HR for when you may really need it.

  23. Liz Milne

    Yes, I had someone like that. I found the best thing to do was to stop working completely when she came over, and just say, "no, thanks, I'm fine." OR "I understand what I'm doing, thank you for your offer, but I'm sure you must have work of your own to finish." Sort of, barbed, but not really rude, and escalating to more barbed until they finally got the message and huffed off to their own desk. I think the final straw for her was when she came around my desk to see what I was working on and I turned off the screen, saying, "Oops, confidential info on there, can't let you see that."

    Having said that, I knew I had my direct manager's confidence and that he would back me up over her so I could afford to be a little snippy with her...

    But basically, if she doesn't have the right to manage your work, there is NO acceptable amount of micromanaging, I think?

    Good luck, I hope you find a way to deal with her soon: people like that can be really draining...

  24. Anonymous

    Thank you for the advice! Very helpful will try this!

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