I'm a director in a non-clinical role at a fairly large health system; I've been there just a year.

I'm a director in a non-clinical role at a fairly large health system; I've been there just a year. I kind of knew going into the organization was a hot mess, but my boss is well-regarded in our field and someone I could really learn from. That part has definitely not changed; my boss is awesome, I learn so much from her, and professionally is someone I look up to and want to emulate. We have a great working relationship and really support each other. We are part of a larger department, but we're the only two that perform our function.

Two months after joining this organization, the department head left and we were realigned under the Legal Dept. We were cautiously optimistic; generally, for our dept, it's not recommended to do this due to conflict of interest (think regulatory reporting vs. legal risk). However, it's quickly become apparent unless you have a JD your expertise and education don't matter at all. The leadership has quickly formed the conclusion that the dept is a mess, though we're not sure what that's based upon. Three directors have all resigned since this happened, with the latest one doing it even though she had a work visa as part of her employment. Another one was asked to resign. Our input at staff meetings has also been discounted.

Even my boss has been scrutinized in her role, with much of her authority now being taken away from her, due to an incident that occurred two years ago the outside council at the time recommended to be reported to the feds. Unfortunately, this resulted in an involved individual taking legal action. Now the current outside council is saying it shouldn't have been reported. But my boss seems to be the one being blamed for this. Part of her job is to report substantiated findings to the federal govt; now she is being told everything has to go through legal, who has routinely told us not to report things that are VERY clearly reportable.

I've been involved with one of the in-house legal counsel for two months as part of a project team. Wow, I don't think this person could be nastier and more unprofessional with me. She already has a tense relationship with my boss, which I feel is now being projected on me. My office was asked to update some policies associated with the project. For one policy, which this individual wrote initially a year ago and seemed very sensitive about, I asked for her input before making changes. I received a tersely written e-mail, on a Sunday morning, asking if I didn't understand the workflow and basically berating me for asking for her input before I made changes. lol though I did tell her "Thanks for offering to meet about the workflow, but I'm good!" We were also asked to give input about upcoming training associated with the project. Any input I gave she said, "No changes," even though there were things that were written poorly or were confusing. My input was discounted and very apparently unwanted, even though it was asked for. Again, almighty JD matters more than a healthcare BS, MHA, two certifications, and almost 20 years of experience.

My boss has been very open and honest with me about the situation and how she feels. She would ideally like to find somewhere that we can continue working together, though we don't know how realistic that is. She's also supportive of me finding a role somewhere else, though is sad about the possibility of me leaving before she does.

I guess I'm looking for advice here. My boss is fantastic and the work I'm doing is exactly what I want to do. Unfortunately, the leadership above my boss is awful (all the way to the CEO) and I feel that I'm going to feel stifled and treated like my expertise does not matter if I stay. I have had a second interview with another organization, so I'm hopeful that will work out. But if it doesn't, is it even worth it to try to see if things settle?

And also, can I just say I am SO TIRED of insecure women beating others down? Why can we not lift each other up, instead of creating these toxic environments?

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  1. Kristie White

    Thank you for being transparent about women beating down other women. Our gender speaks about girl power and women's rights SOO much, but we largely ignore the flagrant backstabbing and bitch fighting between females. I have encountered it over and over in my 40+ career years. Here's my theory...

    For centuries, women have been socially trained to compete on a very personal level. How pretty are you? How handsome is your boyfriend/spouse/sig other? How handsome are your children? Where do you live? Where did you go to college? How much money does your boyfriend/spouse/sig other make? What's your size? How skinny are you? Where did you vacation? etc. etc. etc. These are all VERY personal attributes -not based on your accomplishments, credentials, experience, or value to the organization. Women have been trained to compete for a spouse based on this criteria and to compete foreverrrrrrrrrr. I also theorize that the absence of competitive sports in female education perpetuated this very personal competition.

    Now fast forward to the business world and women are still doing it. We bash each other subconsciously all the time - such as your interactions with the JD. The JD may be insecure about making her mark and she doesn't care what's necessary to make that happen. Your department is a casualty in her corporate journey.

    It is also true that the same behavior could be coming from a man and we would call it arrogance. The difference is the expectation that another woman would be more supportive and not so cutthroat. So you need to work with your eyes wide open - this woman is not supportive at all.

    So here's the strategic side - she is playing a long game. When she asked for your input and then says no changes, she is setting you up to take the hit if there are problems with the deliverable. When she ignores your input, she may be dismissive or she may be intentionally trying to run all incumbent personnel off so she can take over the department. By letting it continue to be a "mess", non-compliant, and letting the current staff voluntarily leave, those that are left can take the blame. She empties out the department and avoids paying separation fees or negotiating. When the department is empty, she swoops in as the savior and cleans everything up. AND you don't know that this isn't exactly what the executive team TOLD her to do.

    So on the surface, I'd say there is a political game going on because females who subconsciously compete are more subtle. This one is being very blatent about it. I do not think this situation will improve until she has total control and I don't think working for/with her will be pleasant. She'll need to start building a team from scratch to eliminate the stink of her actions.

  2. Anonymous

    Thank you so much for the fantastic insight.
    I’m a pretty transparent person and don’t understand or follow these political games, so this is so helpful to me.
    I definitely see what you mean about female competition. The female figures in my life growing up were less than supportive, so I have a pretty skewed view of female relationships and interaction. As women we need to evolve past our basic biology and recognize we have to support each other if we want true equality.

  3. Anonymous

    I get it but we must look after ourselves first and foremost.

    Staying put is obviously an unhealthy decision because you don't stay in toxic environments for a friend. Your boss is planning to leave as well.

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