INTERESTING Situation

21 Comments

1. AnonymousJune 14,2022 at 3:36AM UTC

   Try not to second guess the situation. This might be a conversation your boss wants to have with you in person. Do what you can to put your affairs in order and then request a meeting with your boss when he returns. Congratulations regarding your new job!

2. Joan Williams, Senior Talent Acquisition SpecialistJune 14,2022 at 4:25AM UTC

   You've already done what you need to do - you turned in your notice. If he's responding to other team members, he could have responded to you too.

   Now it's their problem. Don't make it your problem.

3. AnonymousJune 14,2022 at 8:39AM UTC

   He's very much aware and having a quiet passive aggressive response of no response. Behind the scenes he is choosing how to handle the reorganization and allocation of your duties. Many times people shut out the departing person because they are ill equipped to handle the scrutiny of having to address it. That's his problem nit yours. He will recover and put on some semblance of professionalism.

   There is no way you can hire, onboard, train and transition in 2 weeks. It will be closer to 2 months and that would be extremely efficient. He will try and choose someone inhouse but that takes time in a tiny organization.

   Your responsibility is to notify your boss. This week put together a transition plan together with a list of your job responsibilities, timing of deliverables and their current status. If your boss doesn't ask for them , by Friday email them to him and offer to have a call on Monday to review your hand off during your final week.

   The actual transition is not your call. Your professional obligation rests with being prepared and ready to respond with your projects and a comprehensive status. Clean up your to-do list as much as possible so you leave with things organized and tidy.

   There is more happening behind the scenes than you know. Don't over step. Just focus on getting ready to leave. He'll talk to you when he's ready.

   Enjoy your remaining days, focus on your new job and getting rest before you start.

4. AnonymousJune 14,2022 at 7:41PM UTC

   A meeting conversation should have taken place first before the email. It is possible he has not figured out a way to respond. It is possible that he is super angry if you are the only HR and if no one can easily pick up where you left off. Maybe he wants to have a solution in place before reaching out. If you use teams, message him and ask him if he can talk. If he still goes silent, give him his space for a few days

5. Madam anon663June 15,2022 at 4:21PM UTC

   I disagree, there is no hard and fast rule you need a face to face put in a resignation. I have never done it personally after the one and only time I did, and got berated and then fired immediately. You know you are leaving, you resigned by email with enough notice, good enough.

6. AnonymousJune 15,2022 at 5:34PM UTC

   This is a place for diverse people to give diverse advice. With that said, I see your point and perhaps your relationships with your former bosses were poor or hostile. And if that’s the case sure email and cc someone in HR. But if the person had a positive rapport, it’s in poor taste and rude and inconsiderate to not have a conversation or Zoom meeting to discuss. Never said it was required. But it is in very poor taste. Sorry to disappoint but I stand by what I posted

7. Madam anon663June 17,2022 at 8:03AM UTC

   Exactly, it is a diverse place to give diverse advice, and I have every right to disagree. Sorry you cannot take some conflicting opinion.

8. AnonymousJune 17,2022 at 6:20PM UTC

   Ahh I think you are confused, you were quick to assume what I stated was a hard n fast rule rather than an opinion, and it was important to remind you of why we are here. Have a nice day

9. AnonymousJune 15,2022 at 1:16PM UTC

   Or he could be trying to enjoy his much needed vacation. Some folks are taking their first vacay in 2 years! If he responds to your email he has to set things in motion which will require more effort and meetings than simply scanning emails.

   Rest and recuperation is a high priority and if you ask me… it lives above “job” in the pecking order.

10. AnonymousJune 15,2022 at 1:21PM UTC

    OP - The timing of your news forces him to work on his vacation. Let’s reverse the scenario. Let’s say HE was putting in his notice which resulted in extra work for you. Let’s say YOU sweet on vacay during that time and he needed to transition topics to you. What would you think? You’d probably think — what the heck. This can wait.

11. AnonymousJune 15,2022 at 1:28PM UTC

    This is a pretty simple situation and IMHO there is some unnecessary drama. Take ownership of transitioning your work.

    Make a word doc, write down your projects. For each project: 1-2 sentence brief history, decisions made / actions taken recently and next actions. Provide links to relevant materials. This is a standard off-boarding activity.

12. Connie ChaffinsJune 15,2022 at 1:42PM UTC

    Emailing your resignation is never ideal but Im assuming you knew that and didnt see another solution. If there is no way to reach him live, proactively send him your offboarding plan.

    1. Delegate anything you can, share docs as appropriate
    2. build a 'you' in a box: heres my weekly cadence, here are some processes that I use frequently
    3. Here are the common issues and who I reach out to for resolution.
    4. These are important compliance and/or regulatory issues that will need to be addressed.
    5. Include a calendar that highlights monthly/quarterly/annual deadlines, critical dates and events.

    Leaving well is always the best choice and while its probably a lot of work for you to pull all of this together, I don't think you will regret it! Best of luck in your new role.

13. Nicolette ThompsonJune 15,2022 at 3:58PM UTC

    Ha! I would’ve said cc HR but… you are HR. Perhaps forward to his next up (skip level) and say you know you have some time-sensitive things and don’t want to disturb vacation? Sort of saves face for him but also gets your objectives taken care of.

14. AnonymousJune 15,2022 at 9:46PM UTC

    Forgive me. What part of this is insane? The man is on vacation. He is off duty. Some countries value someone’s time off. What has he done wrong?

15. Joan Williams, Senior Talent Acquisition SpecialistJune 16,2022 at 12:25AM UTC

    Where, specifically, does it say anything about him being on vacation?

    The original poster said "He has been out of office, but working . He has responded to other team members on various emails."

16. AnonymousJune 16,2022 at 12:53PM UTC

    “He’s been out of office” is PTO. Whatever the reason he is out of office we should respect it. Even if he is responding to others, those can be quick yes or no scenarios and we can’t treat that with the same

    weight as this scenario.

17. Joan Williams, Senior Talent Acquisition SpecialistJune 16,2022 at 11:08PM UTC

    Out of the office can also be working from home.

18. Susan RoblesJune 15,2022 at 4:44PM UTC

    This sounds insane. Good you're getting away. Write out any progress and program notes, and leave everything labeled as well as you can. Leave all company property and document all of this is email with her manager. This is my advice.

19. Audrey KirschJune 15,2022 at 11:18PM UTC

    With 2 weeks notice it would have been hard to hire someone new, train them and have them up and running prior to your departure. It takes more than a week for my company get through the interview process. Boss is just waiting until he is back to worry about it or he already has someone in mind and already reached out to them. Just document what you do, what's been done & what needs to be done with explicit instructions and examples if possible. Then you'll know that you completed your time left in the best way possible and can leave with a clear conscience. As much as we like to think it, no one is irreplaceable. After a few bumps they'll be fine once you're gone.

20. AnonymousJune 17,2022 at 12:49AM UTC

    Just a quick question: when did management/leadership positions become 2 week notices? No matter how much pressure my new job gave me, I have always provided a month. I thought that was standard?

21. AnonymousJune 17,2022 at 6:18PM UTC

    1 month is being courteous and should be the standard. But 2 weeks is the standard minimum to where your boss cannot rant on you to another employer for leaving with insuffienct notice