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Hi! I wanted to pick yalls Brains about something. I am about to be let go.. let me correct that. Fired. My company has laid off over 50% of our company. I am on the sales side so as we know sales is the last to go because they are bringing in the revenue BUT they increased our numbers and quotas so high that it’s impossible for me to reach considering I have not been with the company long. So they are essentially pushing us newbies out :(

a lot of my peers have quit but I have not had success locking down a new job yet. Should I wait to be fired so I can at least collect unemployment if needed? I don’t know what to do. I’ve never been fired before for performance.

I also want a job NOT in sales, as I have done it for 6 years and desperately want a new career path. Any suggestions on that as well. I am open to learning and growing in a new role, my hatred for sells is mt biggest motivator haha.

thank you!!! ?

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  1. Anonymous

    Changing requirements randomly and making them impossible is called "moving the goalposts" and is unfortunately common.

    Stay until you are let go, otherwise you will probably not get unemployment. Remember getting laid off is not the same as getting fired. Fired means you screwed up, laid off means the company screwed up (bad investment, didn't read the market correctly, didn't have a backup plan). Lots of people getting laid off so it's not a black mark against you.

    Sales sucks, that's why there are always open positions, it has a high turnover.

  2. Susan Grant-Suttie

    This is called constructive dismissal. Your administration is making the benchmark unachievable which will justify your dismissal. As well, don't think of it as sales, think of it as doing your customer a favour, helping them out - not selling. That's the only way I got around it but I agree with you - I also hate selling. Good luck.

  3. Dawn McDonnell

    I feel your pain . I have been in sales for more tha 20 yrs in different capacities. I will give you some wise advice. This letting go of people is going to get worse in our economy.

    Keep showing up , look for a job every day on the side after work snag some interviews- while you have your job. Keep your mouth shut. Loose lips sink ships. Don’t leave on your own or resign . Get comfortable with being uncomfortable insecure. Power down on any frivolous expenses now. Get fired to collect unemployment & remember unemployment monies ARE taxed.

    crazy thing when u are on hard times the IRS does not give a ****.

    prepare for health insurance. Getting educated not with Cobra but in the market place for bare min.

    if you have any health concerns or want to get your teeth done, gyno stuff get it done now. DO NOT QUIT

    Collect unemployment. Don’t feel bad. It’s you against the world

  4. Anonymous

    I'm sorry to hear.

    FYI- Sounds like you were laid off / let go. Being Fired (is for cause- you did something wrong). You're right that if the employer makes the decision to let you go, you can collect Unemployment. Don't quit if you can stand it (and need the unemployment or health insurance benefits).

    Regarding Sales--and you may know some of this... there are so many types. Hard sales all about KPIs (and regular deadlines- quarterly, weekly, etc.) whether cold calls- first sales, upselling, etc. . Soft/consultative sales for subscription membership plans (less pressure on KPIs and quarterly goals). Customer success (soft sales or triaging sales calls upward to the "closers" on the team). Customer Service (similar to success), handling questions about products/services. Learning and Development/Training---tied to Customer Success especially if the product requires the user to learn.

    If there are subjects, industries, types of jobs, salary ranges that you're interested in, that will help you search. If you hate sales, it may be worth asking what you like instead or what aspect of sales you don't like. For years I thought I didn't like sales, but it really was because I didn't receive training. Once I gained experience, I was the top seller (in Consultative /conversational sales it's all about Relationships, checking in on folks, relating, etc.). If you have strong relationship skills, you could pivot your Sales work to companies that have a softer approach, in house training, and equipment, as well as a team there to support you (they do exist). Another thing to consider is company organization. For smaller companies, you'll wear many hats. For larger ones, you'll have opportunity to learn, advance, and focus on an aspect of a job. For example, Check out the Customer Success Journey and Customer Success Lifecycle. Also check out the Employee lifecycle. Depending on where the customer / employee is on their respective lifecycles, there would be a touch point (either from computer, bot, or human). Typically, the earlier stages in the lifecycle can be where newbies learn.

    Sometimes we have zigzag careers, especially in transition periods. Where, it may not be based on extremes like what we like or hate. Sometimes it's practical, like what can I do and how much do I need to earn---and esp. WHO do I know. Sometimes friends and neighbors hear of something and you give it a go and it's a great transition job.

    Best of luck.

  5. Anonymous

    Thank you so much for all of this advice!!!

    in reality, some sort of sales is in every type of business. Which is fine, I enjoy relationship building, being helpful, guiding, following up, etc. but the KPI and cold calling and straight up forcing or “begging” people for something is not what I want in my career.

    I will do more research into other sales roles - but as of now I do know that I want to switch into a hospitality/events/ customer service role. I have applied to the Marriott many times - trying to land a role in a Corp like that so I CAN wear many hats, learn and grow in that industry and work my way into a leadership role. I LOVE people and love putting out fires - and I live in FL, so the hospitality world shouldn’t go away anytime soon ?

    I appreciate you taking the time to respond on this post!

  6. Anonymous

    Been there!

    Hold out until THEY let you go . In the meantime, focus on what you want and possibly LinkedIn or uDemy and polish your resume.

    Then when it's time to move forward, you'll have a more clear idea (knowing what you DON'T want can be more meaningful than what you do!)

    You got this!!!!
    ....and I don't like sales either!

  7. Anonymous

    Thank you for your advice!! Trying to exit the sales world has been so difficult because I don’t have a “hard skill”. I know I am able to learn fast and will be an amazing asset to a company if they will train me, but that seems harder to come by now a days. ( at least in my current experience).

    i have never heard of udemy - I will look into that!

    thank you!!

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