Stay or go?

27 Comments

1. AnonymousApril 21,2025 at 6:31AM UTC

   Can you find solutions that help the company reach a margin, balances it's books? So that it doesn't just stay afloat.. The manager is probably behaving like that due to it's financial situation, rather than the other way around.

2. AnonymousApril 21,2025 at 6:32AM UTC

   Have you tried a group brainstorm of ideas? That usually means the rest of the group are also involved.

3. AnonymousApril 21,2025 at 7:24AM UTC

   The comments were generalised and vague.. no context was present.

4. AnonymousApril 21,2025 at 7:25AM UTC

   I try not to be perfect. It's going to delay work.

5. AnonymousApril 21,2025 at 7:22AM UTC

   I found a male faculty member aggressive well two different ones..

   The first one I could cope with I didn't need to directly communicate. It was a bad day. The second one I just could not understand his communication. Be was speaking in English. And he had an English accent.

6. AnonymousApril 21,2025 at 10:57AM UTC

   Oh, Toxic positivity is when people negate negative feelings. I thought it was the other way around.

7. AnonymousApril 21,2025 at 10:59AM UTC

   Maybe suggest Journaling, or some cards to express her negative emotions, so they can be processed better. I am learning.

8. AnonymousApril 21,2025 at 11:05AM UTC

   I think there was a generation that were told that's how things are. They don't have the tools to manage it.

9. AnonymousApril 21,2025 at 12:20PM UTC

   Only you can answer this question. What is your financial situation? How long can you live on your savings? Remember, thousands of Federal workers are joining the unemployment lines and looking for jobs, so the job search is getting fierce(r), especially if you could in any way be considered a DEI hire.

   Why is the company struggling? Is it losing funding or relevance? What solutions to these can you propose? If you need to stay there because of your finances, try hard to find solutions to the "mess," or you may not have a choice. Do your best to work with the manager as much as you can. Toxic positivity (although I dislike the fakeness) is easier to take than toxic negativity (because it is brutal), at least for me, so hang in the best you can, update your resume and profiles on job sites to put yourself out there, and do what you can with the time you have. Please keep us posted.

10. AnonymousApril 21,2025 at 12:48PM UTC

    I am sorry you are going through this. I recently had a similar experience with toxicity in the workplace. It greatly affected my health due to the stress and constant walking on eggshells. You have to weigh on whether this is affecting you to the point of impact on your physical and mental health or if you can push through and try and find another job while dealing with these matters while employed. I wish you the best.

11. AnonymousApril 21,2025 at 3:10PM UTC

    Sounds easy enough to stay until you have offers from other companies. I mean really what is the downside? A few tantrums,

12. Kimberly McApril 21,2025 at 3:15PM UTC

    Make sure you leave before your paychecks bounce. But try to have something in the pipeline before you go, if you can. Holes in your resume can be hard to explain.

13. AnonymousApril 21,2025 at 5:03PM UTC

    We all have the same 24 hours. What you decide to do with it is up to you. In your spare time, outside of work as you don't live there, seek work elsewhere. Never quit a job unless your life was threatened. Stick it out until you find another job and best to get something lined up as fast as possible. I'd rather take a salary than not. It's hard getting ZERO money coming in and unemployment doesn't happen right away nor is it made for you to live on long term. It's also below poverty level money. So with that, spend your after hours and outside of work hours seeking work. If you get an interview, great, request the time off. They can't fire you for taking time off, but they can if you are found seeking work while at work. So do this in your after work hours time. Make time. Also, if you at any time go to the bathroom, use your cell phone to look for other jobs. No one can monitor your potty time.

14. Michele RayApril 22,2025 at 7:28AM UTC

    Start learning the new ways to apply and connect with AI. Stay as long as they are paying you until you have another paycheck lined up, side hustle, some other money coming in from somewhere.

    My last contract ended in December after 3 years of renewals and talk of going permanent, but they gave me a 3 month notice. I started applying and still applying with little traction or replys. It's tough getting connected to jobs and the scams are thick. Also, many government employees are re-entering the job seeker category currently and in the near future, so competition is going to get tougher.

    AI seems to have made connecting employers to job seekers and job seekers to employers more difficult. Scammers are making it worse. I've seen many posts about ppl applying for 1000s of jobs and unemployed for 6 months to a year.

    If you have the choice get replacement money coming in first. Try to meditate or something leave the toxic job at the job and while there try not to absorb any of it.

    It doesn't define you, it doesn't have to affect you!! Its not who you are!! Its just a job.

    Hope this is helpful!!

    Best wishes for you!!

15. Marci BryantApril 22,2025 at 12:14PM UTC

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16. MimApril 22,2025 at 12:47PM UTC

    It’s time to look for new employment.

    Get your resume updated.

    Start networking for a new job.

    Not wise to leave without another job. But that being said, Toxic environments take a toll on mind body and spirit, sometimes you need to leave and heal before moving on. Make sure you have thought of everything. Benefits , bonuses, etc. Many bad managers , life is too short.

    Good Luck

17. Colleen HansonApril 22,2025 at 12:51PM UTC

    I went through something similar at one point in my career. I found what I thought would be a dream job only to find out, within weeks of my hire, that the company was in trouble financially. No one wanted to train me because they knew the company was going to fold and morale was pretty much non-existent. Co-workers did nothing but bad-mouth the CEO, who had taken over the company when his father passed away. I maybe saw him a handful of times in the month that I was there, and the last time was when he screamed at me for having NO knowledge of my actual responsibilities. I had a private meeting with him and explained that no one would train me and I let him know that the employees were telling me the company was going out of business. He denied everything, but did absolutely nothing to get me access to the programs and info I needed to even remotely try to train myself. When the company accountant walked out and never came back I knew that the rumors must be true and immediately started looking for something else. I was lucky enough to find something rather quickly and was able to get out about a month before the company folded. I do know that several employees checks bounced during the course of that last month.

    I would advise you to look for something else ASAP! I assume that you do not work 24/7, so you should have plenty of time to look in the evenings, on breaks, during lunch, etc. If you are offered an interview, use personal time and go!

18. AnonymousApril 22,2025 at 12:59PM UTC

    You are describing my exact situation from 2023! Might it be the same company? Either way, I suggest working on getting them to package you out. It was the best solution for me, especially with a bad manager and a company on a downward trend.

19. Kimberly BonkApril 22,2025 at 2:30PM UTC

    While my suggestion would not be for everyone, there comes a point in your career (and life) where you need to look out for your physical, emotional and mental wellness. Working in an environment such as you describe is very toxic and will have long lasting impact on you if you stay. Try to look for something else or if you are able, give notice and find something else afterwards. You are the most important consideration. I made that decision in 2024 and my stress levels have decreased significantly not to mention I feel better physically, emotionally and mentally. I have my life back.

20. AnonymousApril 22,2025 at 3:42PM UTC

    I like that you have been given a disclaimer. I’m curious to know how you paid your bills because a lack of paycheck can lead to more stress and mental health challenges.

    It was a brave move to leave your job but I also think there are other things we should talk about like the financial impact. Money is not everything but I certainly agree that health comes first.

21. Kimberly BonkApril 22,2025 at 4:52PM UTC

    I've been on this earth long enough and working for many years to know that I made the right choice. May I add that it wasn't an easy choice but needed to be made. The environment was very toxic, passive aggressive and being bullied is not my idea of treating someone fairly. Attending back-to-back meetings along with that environment was no longer acceptable. I understand the financial implications and established a contingency plan. Not to mention, I started my own business aside to help animals. For so long, I didn't have a choice because of fear of not getting a job or upsetting someone. I finally made a choice for me.

22. AnonymousApril 22,2025 at 3:37PM UTC

    Please hold on to your job. Look at the positive aspect of it all for example, you wake up in the morning and go to work, you’re receiving a pay check so you are able to pay bills, you probably have health insurance, 401k or other benefits through your employer. If you leave without another job, you lose all that. The job market is wild and frustrating right now. Hold on to what you have as you search for another opportunity.

23. AnonymousApril 22,2025 at 3:49PM UTC

    I believe you answered your own question. Unless there will be a severance package given in the end, then stay. Then that buys you some comfortable time to look once the company closes. If not. leave, but only you know your financial needs.

24. AnonymousApril 22,2025 at 4:48PM UTC

    Easy choice if all that is keeping you there is the paycheck.. Keep looking for work, stay there and do the basics to get the job done spend one hour per day outside of work applying to other things. Good luck.

25. AnonymousApril 23,2025 at 12:58PM UTC

    I'd stick it out as long as possible while very actively searching for a new role....UNLESS you have savings that will last you 6-12 months. I have just one time left a job without nothing else lined up and it took some time to find something new (I wound up in a role I wasn't happy in because I needed something and then 1.5 years later I was laid off as that was in the midst of the 2008/2009 recession).

26. AnonymousApril 23,2025 at 2:36PM UTC

    Start looking and applying NOW. I was with a fortune 500 company at the time (late 2002) and loved the company, but I knew they were in financial trouble. It was hard, but I knew this wasn't going to get better without a bankruptcy, so I started looking immediately. The bankruptcy was imminent and as part of the prework, they let go about 100 people in the offices. I was one of them. I was able to land 2 job offers in less than 4 weeks, because of my prework and recognition that the poor financial viability. The next step was bankruptcy for them and another much larger round of layoffs. Then court breakup of the business. I had a job and my coworkers who were in denial and it took a lot of them more than 4 or 5 months because the economy started in a downward spiral

    You know it is barely sustainable and you are calling it Toxic. Start looking now.

27. AnonymousApril 25,2025 at 9:02AM UTC

    That's impressive.