Ever Ask for Severance to Leave an Extremely Toxic Company????

Ever Ask for Severance to Leave an Extremely Toxic Company????

EDIT: Please note that I am responding to others as it has actually been an empowering learning experience. Before talking to legal council, I didn't know I had options and how or that I could defend myself. Ladies, you have options, do not suffer in silence. You can have a plan and it can protect you should things come to an end in a number of ways.

This is my recap of what I am currently going through and why I am asking...

I didn't get the training I was promised, despite professionally asking for help, going to HR, and writing up clear needs, I was told I would get 3 months of ramp up time - I didn't even get a full month. I have that in writing, not only from me, but from coworkers who were upset that I was taken out of their teams that I was training in.

The person I am taking over for admitted to me more than once that they were leaving the role because it was too chaotic, the role was making them have anxiety, so they were moving to a new role on a team that had structure. They also didn't tell me this person was leaving, and they completely changed my entire onboarding plan to be essentially me watching a few videos and then nothing at all.

I have written emails as follow-ups to my managers and they take it as a personal attack when it's just a recap that any normal company would have their employees write after a standard meeting. Factually - date, time, topic, agenda items, plan of action, timeline, action items. That's it. I always use ChatGPT or Gemini to review to make sure that it's clean and clear cut. So I can't even blame the tone for being off as it's just a generic recap from ChatGPT or Gemini. And I was told to do this for efficiency.

Management and my team members have told me multiple times that they need to change and that they're difficult people who refuse to change, they're also doing a course on how to take feedback, but ironically can't take the feedback they ask for.

There's no process anywhere, at all, and it's been that way for years, but they claim it's 'just because of how complex things are' when it's not that complex at all.

Multiple people have brought up to HR (and HR told me themselves) that management on my team is lacking, not doing their job, and many others have filed concerns and complaints. But they asked me to be 'patient' in getting what I was promised with no clear action forward.

They presented in a company meeting that women reported getting minimal to no support in career development or management opportunities, but said nothing to address it - just stated it as fact and then moved onto how much money we made... which was well past our goal.

They refused to pay me what I asked for in negotiations... and then the head of HR actually told me I should ask for more... after my boss told me in negotiations that I was at the cap... when the cap is at 20k more than what I asked for.

I sat down with another coworker today for a project and they vented to me for 40 minutes about how broken things have been for years claiming that management knows there are gaps.... but it's been that way for years, the same managers are in place, and it hasn't changed at all - 'it's just how it is'.

I've started to write everything down to keep as a log- reading it is empowering, but it's very clear that things are not OK.

In a 1:1 meeting, the team leader subtly threatened me, asking if I was even capable of fulfilling my role. I wrote a very basic and general recap email as we had a few items we discussed (omitting his threats and any hint of his mistreatment) - but he took the email extremely personally when there was factually no reason to do so. Their response and reaction was so alarming that I put my recap into ChatGPT to review again to see where I might have even gone wrong, and nothing about it is unprofessional, impolite, or out of line. I read it to a friend who is an attorney, and they also found nothing wrong with it, at all. It was just a factual recap.

I nearly walked out today because of how much I've been mistreated. I've been taking anxiety meds to sleep at night because I'm so anxious with the ambiguity, toxicity, and clear lack of direction.

I don't know what my options are. But I've handled everything as professionally as I can.

Has anyone else here asked for a severance after collecting a ton of data to show that things are toxic and just not what they were promised? If I land some kind of severance, I'd rather try to start my own business. Another coworker wanted to start a consulting gig helping companies that bought the product to be able to actually use it as we know how awful the support is, and know when to call BS.

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  1. Anonymous

    Outright asking for a severance to leave? No. I've seen instances where it was mutually agreed that "yeah, this isn't working, no harm no foul". Has the company indicated directly or indirectly that maybe you should leave? Are you on any sort of a PIP? Instead of pseudo blackmailing them for a severance, if there is something actually illegal going on (and I'm not sure that there is based on what you've said, toxic? yes. illegal? I don't know) then seek legal guidance. I mean, I'm not telling you don't do it, but prepared for the answer to be no. Start working on an exit strategy that doesn't depend on you getting a severance.

  2. Anonymous

    It seems you don't understand what blackmail means and/or entails. At no point has there been a threat to go public if not in exchange for a monetary sum.

    I have now spoken to an attorney and asking for a negotiated separation is not unheard of, or illegal.

  3. Anonymous

    I said "pseudo" blackmail. And that was based on your line: "Has anyone else here asked for a severance after collecting a tone of data to show that things are toxic and just not what they were promised?"

    Nor did I say what you were asking for was illegal. Please actually re-read what I wrote. But in looking at some of your other responses to what people have said, you came back here in attack mode. Makes me wonder if it really is you and not your employer that is the problem.

  4. Anonymous

    I'm sorry that you feel that way. Having spoken to legal council and provided that data that you mentioned, I have now been informed that I am correct, and I have the right to pursue severance, file with the AG's office, and EEOC for retaliation, sexism, and fraud.

  5. Anonymous

    Based on what you described, the lawful next steps are generally:

    * **Preserve documentation** (offers, emails, HR communications, meeting recaps, medical records).

    * **Consult an employment attorney** to assess misrepresentation, retaliation, or constructive discharge.

    * **Consider a negotiated severance** framed as a mutual, business-driven separation.

    * **Avoid resigning impulsively** until you understand your legal leverage.

    * **Protect your health and professionalism**, as medical impact and conduct can matter legally.

    Severance isn’t guaranteed, but documented unmet promises and management failures can create leverage for a clean exit.

  6. Anonymous

    Appreciate a real answer - thank you.

  7. Anonymous

    I would keep your request for severance personal and not keep mentioning other people. You might be viewed as a trouble maker and let go.

  8. Anonymous

    Right? Definitely viewed as a trouble maker for sure.

  9. Anonymous

    Per my post above - I haven't mentioned this to other people - they're coming to me, not the other way around - I am trying to just document so I can just do my job and have a clean exit.

  10. Anonymous

    It seems there's a misinterpretation of what was said - other's are coming to me, not the other way around. I don't speak about this with anyone else because I am trying to lay low. I take note of what's happening and doing my job with the little help I've gotten.

    I am doing the basics of what I have done in any other job and it all seems like a threat. Have a 1:1 - here is the conversation and next steps... but then I get pulled aside for writing an email with the next steps? Have a meeting on a client, send a follow-up with action items and next steps? told it's unnecessary. It's non-sensical.

  11. Anonymous

    Well a company like this , with this culture will probably not consider severance unless provided for in an employment contract. They will probably just fire you. You don’t want to be without a job right now. Also it sounds like you are developing a rather high profile of someone who is dissatisfied and pointing lots of fingers at the old establishment. Never a good plan and you aren’t going to be taking over as CEO anytime soon. So, hunker down, do your job make connections with the positive people in the company and get your resume out there.

  12. Anonymous

    Highly doubt you would receive any severance with what you've described.

    Get out while you still have your sanity and seek a job more suited to you.

  13. Anonymous

    It sounds like you like you are still new. Are you on a probationary period?

    No, you will not likely receive any severance. Check your employer handbook for the policy.

    By what you wrote, they are definitely not interested in keeping you or interested in you or what you have to say - period.

    As you appear to still be new and have been lodging complaints and venting to co-workers, you are a liability and will likely be terminated within the month or when your probation period expires (if you have one)

    Your only leverage is if you have solid evidence that your mistreatment was due to you being in a protected class. Based on what you wrote above, they likely have enough to counter that with performance data.

    Get out soon and best of luck.

  14. Anonymous

    Hi - it seems you have missed my other comments - I am not making comments to others, they are coming to me. HR specifically asked for my feedback because of my experience, so I was honest. I have been quiet - only bringing my concerns to HR or to my boss as I was hired to help bring about change and they asked for this feedback.

  15. Anonymous

    Ask. The worst they can say is NO, right? I've asked for severance when being FIRED. The first offer was 2 weeks and I declined and asked for several months. We were able to compromise on a happy medium in the end. ANYTHING is possible so dont sell yourself short - I say go for it!

  16. Anonymous

    Thank you - I appreciate this!

  17. Anonymous

    I am in a similar situation. I kept thinking things were going to get better. My company has a history of discrimination. I have heard this from long time employees, and an employee posted it on Glassdoor. I had a conversation with my direct manager, and ask for clarification concerning my role. Week later he came back with an option transition package. He did not discuss with HR. I am currently on unpaid leave due to FMLA. Last effort on my part to care for spouse, and take time off to figure next steps. Now I am stressed financially. Bad decision I made over a year ago due to pay &benefits. So I understand what you are going through.

    There seems to be a lot of perfect people on here giving advice.

  18. Anonymous

    I am sorry that you're going through the same.

    Sadly, I turned down a few roles over a year to try to find the right fit. This one seemed like a decent place, just very good at hiding their flaws.

    I have spoken to a few for council (attorneys) and they all agreed - stay put for as long as I can. Find a new role, and negotiate a severance package. I, unfortunately, have enough evidence to prove discrimination, retaliation, and a few other things.

    I would definitely seek council for yourself. I have been told that I can request severance when I leave as there is clear discrimination, sexism, and technically fraud, as they lied to me about how much they could afford to pay me. Technically, they owe me back pay as well.

  19. Dr. Patty Gross

    Is there a hard copy of the presentation that states "that women reported getting minimal to no support in career development or management opportunities, but said nothing to address it -..."? If so, you can use that as leverage, as they are aware that they are an EEOC lawsuit waiting to happen. I agree with others that continue to document, and if you do leave, make sure they don't ask you to sign a "non-compete" agreement (some will use that as a requirement for severance payout), mainly if they sell professional services or training for the products, as that would make your business venture complex and fraught with legal issues.

    Otherwise, all I can say is you can ask. Severance is usually provided only when someone is terminated involuntarily (if at all), not when someone leaves on their own.

  20. Anonymous

    Thank you for the professional and clear reply.

    Unfortunately and fortunately, yes, there is a hard copy that all have access to. As you have caught, it does not detail how this is going to resolved. It just makes the statement and that's it.

    I have spoken to a few for council and they all agreed - stay put for as long as I can. Find a new role, and negotiate a severance package. I, unfortunately, do in fact have enough evidence to prove discrimination, retaliation, and a few other things. Technically, they owe me back pay as well.

  21. Coach Nancie Kay Shuman

    Do you have a written contract? What does it say? I would start there. I would also have a general conversation with a labour attorney, simply to know your rights. Labour law for every State is a little different, but there may be something which you don't know that can be used to your advantage. Even if there is not, it may be a good use of the time and money simply to have some clarity.

    Good luck.

  22. Anonymous

    Thank you for the professional and clear reply - I do have a contract, and that is part of the issue. My contract does not align with what my male peers have, even though we've been told that everyone should have the same base/commission split. Mine is lower than their's, despite have years more experience.

    I have spoken to a few for council and they all agreed - stay put for as long as I can. Find a new role, and negotiate a severance package. I, unfortunately, do in fact have enough evidence to prove discrimination, retaliation, and a few other things.

  23. Angelina Peters

    I’m sorry you’re dealing with this — what you’re describing is, unfortunately, not uncommon, and it’s clear you’ve tried to handle it professionally.

    From experience, there are usually two practical paths, and which one makes sense depends on your end goal and the strength of your documentation.

    1) Legal review (only if there’s true statutory exposure):

    If you have clear documentation of discrimination, protected-class issues, or other legal violations, it’s worth having an attorney review that evidence — even via a short paid consultation. It’s important to be realistic, though: courts generally don’t award damages for a toxic or chaotic workplace alone. Absent a contract or statutory violation, the expectation is often that an employee could exit voluntarily.

    2) Negotiated exit with financial runway (more common):

    If your priority is to leave cleanly and protect your well-being, a structured severance discussion is often the most pragmatic option. Even a brief legal consult can help frame the request appropriately and avoid unintended consequences.

    Common severance considerations:

    • A reasonable severance period (often 2–3 months)
    • Short-term COBRA coverage, if applicable
    • Clarity on unemployment eligibility
    • Neutral reference language (dates and title only)

    If an agreement is proposed, review carefully:

    • Confidentiality language (ensure standard legal carve-outs)
    • Any release of claims, which permanently waives future action

    In practice, severance agreements are most successful when positioned as mutually beneficial — reduced risk for the company, closure and stability for the employee.

    If you’re already thinking about your next chapter, protecting your runway and reputation is often more valuable than trying to prove how broken the system is. You’ve documented enough to know this isn’t sustainable — now it’s about choosing the exit that serves you best.

  24. Anonymous

    Thank you for the professional and clear reply - I have spoken to a few for council and they all agreed - stay put for as long as I can. Find a new role, and negotiate a severance package. I, unfortunately, do in fact have enough evidence to prove discrimination, retaliation, and a few other things.

  25. Anonymous

    You can't really ask for severance....if you want to keep getting paychecks from your employer, cease documenting conversations and asking for training. Sorry for the real-talk....been there

  26. Anonymous

    Unfortunately, you're incorrect.

    Per legal council, documenting conversations is exactly what I need to be doing in order to protect myself and ensure that if what I am doing (which is keeping to myself) doesn't work anymore. That is evidence to prove I have been doing everything I can to make this work and perform well. You are correct in one way, that there is a point when you need to stop asking. That doesn't mean that the ask can't be made, it needs to be.

    While asking for training seems like it is an issue, it's necessary for a number of reasons. One of them being that the law wants and needs to see that you tried your best to resolve an issue or to perform your job as well as you could. Should your employer not meet that need after a clear request, that is not on you, that is on them.

    If a friend or you ever run into the scenario that I am, I hope that this insight helps. You have a right to ask for what was promised, and for the resources to do your job, and do it well.

  27. Anonymous

    You are documenting conversations to protect yourself against what? It is not illegal for people to treat you horribly at work and let you go for idiotic reasons. Sex, age, race, ethnicity, etc discrimation is illegal and very hard to prove . Are you documenting things because you believe you are being subjected to illegal discrimination based on a status in civil rights laws? if not, you are likely wasting time that could be spent finding a different job..I know that isn't easy but...

  28. Anonymous

    As stated in other comments it's for a few protected classes, age and gender being two of them.

  29. Anonymous

    I disagree I think you can ask for a mutual separation package where they essential ask you not to say anything negative about the company, and they will not say anything negative to you for future reference

  30. Anonymous

    Unfortunately you are incorrect - depending on the scenario, you can ask for severance. In situations like mine where there's clear fraud, sexism, and retaliation, I can in fact request severance. More so if it is affecting my well-being.

  31. Anonymous

    I disagree if she has documented I believe she can ask for a severance package, they do owe her.

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