Internal offer of 4x the work. Lateral move. SMH!

I love where I work and the marketing executive that I work for. The new HR exec proposes that I report into her and, in addition to branding, add the management of corporate culture, philanthropy and values portfolios. And not with a title increase, but for a lateral move. A significant workload. impact Teams and budgets that will be mine to propose, but none that currently exist. A great amount of satisfying work, but to do this important work that will benefit the strategic future of the company without warranted title or pay that equates to the work is unsettling. Your thoughts?

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  1. Barbara Sonin

    Why would you consider it? You love the exec you're currently working for. Why change to one who at the very beginning is proposing to take advantage of you?

  2. Anonymous

    I love that statement and agree. I remain hopeful that my current state can remain as is.

  3. Lynda Reinarz

    this is a famous move to get a reliable, hardworking person to do 4x the work with the same pay. No thanks! give you a promotion and a raise and sure thing!

  4. Cayla Marie Strattman

    To propose an increase and change in responsibilities without a title change or pay increase is a red flag.

  5. Jennifer Elliott

    Ummmm...no. If they aren't increasing your compensation, but are adding work, there's no benefit to you. They however, will reap the benefits. Politely decline.

  6. Anonymous

    And what a burden that this dialog occurred right before I was to go on vacation, so I kept thinking about it the entire time I was away, though I knew my response - that maps to your guidance - to be right. Thank you.

  7. Jennifer Elliott

    I would have done the same thing. And would have driven myself crazy in the process?. I worked at a company about 10 years ago. My manager was great, but left the company. The interim manager decided it was a great idea to assign me additional responsibilities that were essentially the equivalent of a second full time job. There was no overtime allowed and I was told that I would not be given an increase in salary. Apparently, I was supposed to be happy with the "experience" I was getting. Needless to say I started looking for a new role and left shortly afterwards. Some companies will just keep putting more work on you unless or until you establish boundaries. Good luck!!!

  8. Anonymous

    The human connection and relatable experience shared means a lot. Thank you, Jenny.

  9. Jennifer Elliott

    You're very welcome !

  10. Dustspot

    TITLE IMPROVEMENT COSTS NOTHING! People just don't know anything about engagement or making their workers happy so they are more productive. There is no excuse.

  11. Anonymous

    Amen

  12. Barb Hansen

    I would counter with the title and wage that you want.

  13. Anonymous

    Barb. I actually led with this months ago.

  14. smoleyx3

    Question for you: Is there a better long-term career opportunity by taking this role? I am a big believer that if you do more work without complaining/asking for things in return you're often eventually rewarded with longer-term career growth, pay, etc. If that reward is not likely then I would listen to everyone else on this thread.

  15. Anonymous

    I typically agree with you and have followed this approach in the past. However, I know that based on the evolution of the business and my expressed value to the company that such reward and title is completely justified - and, based on company track record - I'm clear that this is not a given unless I stand firm in my commitment to self worth.

  16. Jennifer Hyduk

    i'm curious what your current Manager thinks about this. Rarely would HR make a decision about the team and dept w/o the Managers being part of the decision.

  17. Anonymous

    We are supposed to talk today... I'll let everyone know.

  18. Anonymous

    I would sit down with them and express that you either will
    a) take the position but only with a title and pay raise and then request like 20K over what you actually want
    or
    b) thank them for their consideration but express your happy with your current position and status

    Do what makes you happy and do not let them walk all over you bc they potentially will.

  19. Lana Tadeyeske Wos

    There are a couple of issues happening: 1. Taking on more responsibility, doubling up on work is risky business You may think you are doing the right thing by saying yes...but stretching yourself too thin inevitably leads to mediocre performance and that will impact performance. The old belief that multi tasking is productive has been proven wrong It not only creates personal havoc, but impacts productivity overall. How can anyone give a 100 percent to everything, all the time.
    2. Secondly, Someone talked about setting boundaries. Setting boundaries is not negative, but a sign of strength, and a statement of your worth ( in all areas) it’s a form of self respect. It says, I respect me, and so should you. If you were viewed as capable to take on greater responsibility., then there is nothing wrong in expecting your company to express that through title, and financial compensation. I think we often find ourselves saying yes because, we need a job, because we want to please, because we think we want to let our employer know we are collaborative and a team player... thus, we’re afraid to say no...fear. No boundaries put us in a “take advantage of me”
    place. And, that is exactly what will happen. We owe It to ourselves to set boundaries. We deserve a win win !
    I speak from a life learning experience, So I hope I didn’t sound too preachy. Good luck!

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