Do you tell your boss about your unseen disability if his or her actions indicate that they have no knowledge of how to work with such a person?

Do you tell your boss about your unseen disability if his or her actions indicate that they have no knowledge of how to work with such a person?

I've been at my current company for 5 years. I'm a high performer. I have good relationships not just within my team but cross-functional teams, some of industry partners and some of the vendors that we rely heavily upon. I'm in the legal field but also heavily involved in training new hires, vendors and other teams as needed.

Over the last 1.5 years, it's clear that the company is in a downward spiral and struggling; to be clear, if we can't get a product to market in the next 6 months, the company will not remain viable. We've had 2 rounds of very poorly handled layoffs with really the bare minimum provided to those laid off and in the case of the recent layoff, some were given no notice and showed up to the satellite office only to find a note on the door stating that it's closed and to return home; they received their same-day layoff notice that same morning.

Corporate goals for the year were already a challenge; with the loss of 20% of staff and some business critical teams dissolved, it's going to be nearly impossible to be successful at the corporate goals which we've been told won't change.

Another round of layoffs is forthcoming; the focus has largely been remote employees (which I am) so I'm already looking.

The issue: with the chaos and the low morale, there has been a total loss of respectful discourse, professional courtesy, transparency, accountability...you get the picture. Now none of this is a surprise to me because of how people respond to stress and loss.

Because no one is trying to steady the ship (if you will), if I am trying to get my job done and I have to do other people's job to get it done (and it impacts my efficiency and getting to other work), I am going to first ask and try to understand what the problem is if someone (specifically, this is a service provider that we PAY to do a job they aren't doing) has decided not to do his or her job and send them the training we went over (also a portfolio level policy of roles and responsibilities). After that, the next time it happens, I'm going to ask if there is something about the role and responsibilities they don't understand that we need to discuss. After that, my tone is going to change and I'm to escalate to my boss.

Yesterday, I was reprimanded for the tone of my email to a vendor that hasn't done their job in literally everything they've sent me for the last 2 months. My boss knows this. I have to do their job to do mine. They won't follow direction. It isn't just me: it's affecting the whole team - my boss knows this too because one other atty has come forward stating the same. It isn't unusual for me to be that person on the team that speaks up on behalf of others - like I have about my concerns about how people are treating each other and that we should do a team building to get back on track.

So I asked my boss what tone should I use when the vendor isn't doing their job *at all* and I've asked nicely, asked if I can provide support, offered one on one retraining...at some point, when I am getting excuses or no response at all or have to literally say that I am directing them as to what to do and not asking, and it's been going on for months, if no one else is going to say something to address how it's affecting work product and efficiency, then I will because it's simply unacceptable.

The email from my boss said that I don't consider how my tone affects everyone (I'm acting on behalf of everyone, we're all sick of it - suggesting that I'm short sighted is just wrong especially since my boss has called me the most empathetic person he knows), that the vendor is doing much better (I asked him that I didn't want to sound flippant, but compared to what? I've worked with them for 5 years and that's longer than he's been there), and that I respond with too much detail and it's probably hard for them to process. Right.

I told him that I haven't changed - how I am doing things is how I've always done them and also, how I was trained (not by him but his boss). How is it that I am being the one corrected for trying to trouble shoot and/or take the reigns of a problem that is impeding us from trying to get (what's pretty much already impossible) done? I was upset because I have no support, for the last year I have been taking on supervisor responsibilities at the director level but have been told 1) any promotion won't come until end of next year (that would be 2 years of performing the role without the title - noting here that the favorite on the team and the boss's bf is being promoted in Jan outside of the promotion period); and 2) any kind of compensation for my work is off the table because I've reached the max compensation for my current role).

I am neurodivergent (I'll spare you how it shows up for me), I have complex PTSD as a result of the environment of house I grew up in, I have recurrent clinical depression - each diagnosis has been made by an MD and I've lived with myself for years.

Having a boss tell me to essentially to be good employee and be quiet, that I am over reacting, that I am being over sensitive, and gaslight me about what he has and hasn't said not to just me but others makes me furious. I've come far enough with a lot of work to not be set off by the personal attacks (over sensitive, over reacting), I was still upset because it touches upon when physically abused by one brother (13 years older than me) and sexually abused by the other (8 years older than me) and my parents choice to tell me to just be quiet and don't upset them and go to my room and keep to myself.

Do I mention to my boss that his response to me when I am trying to keep us on track is toxic and dysfunctional and, as such, affects me on a personal level because I have what classifies as unseen disabilities? I wouldn't go so far as to call it discrimination as much as it is his ignorance.

Thank you in advance for any feedback.

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  1. Anonymous

    Well , you are a lot. You refuse to just sit down and let stuff happen and are a control freak perfectionist. I have no doubt that you do an excellent job but wow! It’s your way or the highway! No oxygen for anyone else. This has nothing to do with being neurodivergent in my opinion. Neurodivergent actually is sort of a super power in folks I’ve worked with. That focus and sort of extra insight is a delight to behold.

    You have clearly described a company in crisis and at times like this you may be asked to do things differently than you’re used to. Your boss just asks you to take it down a few notches when working with vendors. You don’t know the side relationship the company has with these vendors. They may be fronting products to your company as a courtesy because of all the messiness you’ve clearly described.

    A good philosophy is to always be excruciatingly polite and clear over email and text. All nuance and tone is over exaggerated on these two sources of communication. This is something I get into trouble with all the time in my personal life. I think I’ve texted a joke and people take it wrong and I have to explain how funny I think I am. That’s why in business I am scrupulous with my texts and emails. Any scolding or strong arming I do is left to phone calls or in person.

    in my opinion you are going through a super stressful experience in your company as is everyone else. The fear uncertainties and doubt are going to make everyone unbalanced including you. Cut your boss and coworkers some slack, you have no idea what they are all dealing with on a personal level and may require special accommodation. Suck it up, carry on and try to give yourself and others a break. If your boss says your tone is snotty he’s probably right. Stop it. If this place is making you crazy go on stress leave for a while. Get back into therapy. Take good care of yourself so you can weather this storm. Trust me, every work force is going through these difficult times and people like you are needed to keep things running. Good luck

  2. Kate Daley

    Replying with "Well, you are a lot" and your other personal criticism is probably not helpful to the person asking for advice. It seems like she genuinely wants to make the work environment run more smoothly in a tough work environment. If anything, you are the one who should be more careful with her tone, if you want to be helpful.

  3. Kate Daley

    Also, labeling neurodivergence as a "superpower" minimizes the struggles that people with neurodivergence go through every day.

  4. Anonymous

    Thank you. You're 100% on point.

  5. Anonymous

    I am an attorney at a pharmaceutical company supporting our clinical trials. If things don't get done in a timely manner, the clinical study teams that I support don't get what they need, we miss timelines. When I say timelines, I mean regulatory submission timelines and submission timelines at the sites that will be conducting the study - the missed deadline typically results in a month-long delay which impacts other submissions, and so on.

    I think you may have missed the part about where I acknowledged the crisis and the feelings that go along with that, all of which I feel too. I didn't take reading comprehension into consideration when I drafted the message; apologies. At the end of the day, the company still has to run.

    And if my being proactive and choosing to put one foot in front of the other is perceived as apathy yet you're also 'patting me on the back' for getting things done (passively suggesting that I should have some sort of appreciation), the logic doesn't track and I would even say that it's contradictory: if I was the problem employee you suggested, there would be a discussion and it would be more than a single email about my tone.

    Clearly, I hit a nerve and that wasn't intended. That said, I'm not responsible for the amount of judgment that comes through in your response. It's unproductive and really rather disconcerting. Good luck to you as well.

  6. Anonymous

    My opinion was offered and you can choose to ignore it. However , you might contemplate cultivating a sense of humor and do more to nurture yourself outside of work.

  7. Anonymous

    Again, with the judgment. How's that working for you in life? PSA: it's tiresome for the rest of us because it's self-serving on your part and nothing more.

    Anyone that values themselves would not find value in what was a reaction on your part.

    This is a snapshot of a situation with background for context and not the whole of my life.

    If you find judging people "humorous", then I think you may have bigger things on your plate to work on than I do. Maybe focus on that rather than judging others.

  8. Anonymous

    Have you asked for accommodations for your unseen disability? Because it sounds like you just got called out for your tone and are looking for a way to deflect attention elsewhere.

    To be clear, it seems like this work situation is coming to an end. You’ve mentioned layoffs, trouble getting products to market and a company that’s about to fold.

    So jump ship, start looking for another job. The long term viability of your employer is bleak. I’m sorry this is happening.

  9. Anonymous

    My boss is aware that I am neurodivergent, yes - I am on the neurodivergent ERG which was established before they eliminated the DEI program.

    Complex PTSD is something my work doesn't know about, no, and only maybe 3 friends do. There's stigma around mental health and I think that there always will be to some degree. I honestly don't know what an accommodation for CPTSD would look like. I can discuss with my primary care physician. This is the bigger issue than neurodivergent - I think that both CPTSD and being neurodivergent make me hard to understand sometimes, but CPTSD is a bigger challenge for me to manage in certain situations.

  10. Anonymous

    I'm a member of my company's PRIDE ERG...but I'm a straight woman. It's a big jump - membership in your neurodivergent ERG to needing / wanting special treatment for your unseen disability.

    I'm well aware of the stigma around mental health. I'm a recovering alcoholic with generalized anxiety disorder and panic disorder. But...it's you, me, and everyone else who has some sort of plight. I'm so sorry to hear about your CPTSD, but you're still on deck to manage it in the workplace.

    The structure of your post is interesting, as you lead with your supervisor's reaction to your unseen disability. Yet...most of the content is about getting flagged on your tone. TBH, I'm not totally clear on what kind of validation you're after from this board.

  11. Anonymous

    I appreciate your directness - I think I understand why I'm not clear here but let me know if I missed the mark in trying to clarify...

    I think that what my supv is referring to as my "tone" is a direct result/directly related to my neurodivergence or CPTSD "fallout" shows up... meaning, I think that my willingness to speak out when others aren't comfortable with doing so is because (and this is my problem, not the solution) if I see someone/a team needing help, I won't ignore the need and I will try to help within what is my purview or find someone that potentially can however, defer to their discretion. I am fine with trying to understand and help and retrain but if there pushback to the direction provided and workslop as work product and excuses over the course of months, we're now at the point that my tone will be firm and direct and I am in trouble-shooting mod because the vendor is costing us time that we don't have. I've no far fetched fantasy that I can be the solution for anything or anyone, and I know and respect that it takes all of us, but I'm also going to go to bat for the teams that I support if I am not seeing that happening...until someone tells me that there's no need.

    I appreciate the idea of validation but honestly, I'm a bit lost and looking for direction (preferably without judgment) - the idea of validation is nice but I don't know that I am right about anything.

  12. Tiffany Pittman

    Hi! I'm sorry you're in such a tough situation. Especially while dealing with disabilities. I think you should get some expert advice from an outside HR consultant or attorney before you make a move or say anything else. Regina Molden is an employee attorney with tons of videos on YouTube. Start there. There's others on the app too. I'm sure they offer consultations. I hope you find the right person who can help you.

    Hang in there. Wishing you much success!

  13. Anonymous

    Thank you, Tiffany. I do have some decades-long work friends that are SMEs in HR - there are several I could reach out to - I would definitely prefer that than going to company HR because I think that may make things more stressful and not necessarily help.

  14. Tiffany Pittman

    You're welcome! You're right about not going to the company's HR because they'll protect the company's interest over yours.

  15. Anonymous

    Idk if this is helpful as i cant speak to the question you ask but what I have found that helps me and my tone… i run everything through ChatGPT and ask it to rewrite in a professional but stern way and then i get several options to make it harsher or lighter.

    i dont think your boss is right but i also dont think he thinks that the message itself has changed anything or had any value. What i find for myself is sometimes tone can negate any truths. It can be a distraction from the issues. Completely unfair but reality

  16. Anonymous

    You make some good points that I need to consider, for everyone's benefit. Thank you.

  17. Barbara M.

    It’s incredibly difficult to keep showing up with professionalism and care when the environment around you makes it so challenging. Keep looking for another job. The current organization’s instability, inequity, and leadership behavior suggests that no amount of self-advocacy will turn this environment healthy in the near term. Here's to new beginnings!

  18. Anonymous

    I appreciate your focus on the positive - thank you, Barbara

  19. Vicki Sullivan

    Yeet this boss ASAP and start a job search. It sounds like the days are numbered anyway, so don't waste energy on patching the leaky ship. Grab a life jacket and save yourself!

  20. Anonymous

    I agree with Vicki. As one who has every diagnosis you described, I can say with confidence that your mental health is not worth dialing with this any longer than you have to. Going down with the ship is not a place you want to be right now. Best to grab what you can and find greener pastures.

  21. Anonymous

    Since your boss is far from sensitive, telling him you're neurodivergent may backfire and he may use it as an excuse to claim you are less capable than others and make you one of the first to be let go. Instead, phrase it that bottom line, you are trying to help move the company in the right direction, and his style of feedback isn't helping you do that. Ask him for a specific examples of how he wants you to phrase things, then just do it that way even if it's ridiculous. At the same time, start applying elsewhere and leave as soon as you get a good offer.

  22. Anonymous

    If your company is toxic, disclosure of a disability might not go well for you.

    Also toxic bosses do not handle feedback well and push those out who do not go with it.

    For written communication, try gpt or another tool to modify your tone or words before sending.

  23. Anonymous

    Perfect! you can write what you want to write, and let GPT adjust the tone only. Great advice!

  24. Anonymous

    If your co is not doing well, and has done layoffs, and you see only a 6-month window to pull out of the downcycle, i'd read the tea leaves if i were you. seems to be laying out the groundwork to let you go. PIP or no. so be practical esp this year in this job market, do only what you need to do, let the superwoman effort take a rest, and put energy into a job campaign. good luck to you!

  25. Anonymous

    You are cracking under the pressure. Your neurodivergence and otsd are now issues because of this? Take a breath, seek some mental health support and focus on your plan to exit. Focusing on your boss is not going to help you.

  26. Barbara

    Exactly! well said.

  27. Anonymous

    I read over your PTSD issues and thank you for sharing such personal information. I cannot imagine living with all of that. But I do hope therapy helps you. I imagine it's an ongoing life choice to get you through this life. You are a survivor. Have you thought about using your talents for the good of others and finding a new job where your empathy actually matters? Unfortunately, all environments we work will trigger something in us which we cannot control. I have a boss who triggers me (without knowing) as she's passive aggressive just like my father was. Except I can identify when she does this and either I change the subject or I literally walk away. I am also a strong female but she raises her voice louder to talk over. I then just walk away. She's truly messed up (has tons of daddy issues) but has good intentions only if she gets her way. I witness her behavior as inappropriate most of the time but it's her issues, not mine. Remember that your boss has the issue, not you. And they need to support you. Seriously, go help others. If that is your calling. Women could use your support, be the light for others is my thinking on this.

  28. Anonymous

    Telling anyone you THINK they are toxic and dysfunctional is not helpful, nor healthy. Please attend to your mental health and nit contribute to the unhealthy environment.

  29. Anonymous

    I can see how the boss telling you to mute yourself would be super triggering, given your background. We can't change those around us, but we can change how we handle situations. Use the fire you're feeling to ignite your job search. Apply to so many better employers after hours that you start to get that same feeling during the work day as when a really good vacation is coming up. Respond to every scolding with a scripted, "Thanks for the feedback," so that you don't have to waste your energy calculating your reply.

  30. M Baaza

    Your boss doesn't want to be there anymore either. He is dome with the place-

  31. Anonymous

    I also live with depression and PTSD (as well as anxiety and I have a minor learning disability). I’ve learned to be very open and transparent about my conditions and neurodivergence with my supervisors after I build up a good rapport with them. However, that doesn’t prevent unconscious biases and micro-aggressions from occurring. Workplaces in general are not designed and built for people with disabilities, and this includes people leadership.

    Last year, I submitted a medical note to my employer about my postpartum depression and anxiety, but that didn’t stop them from laying me off. The organization had laid off several senior-level employees while I was on maternity leave, and I returned to a very toxic environment. I immediately started job searching and was not completely surprised when they laid me off 3 months after I had returned from my maternity leave.

    In short, as you wrote, the company is on a downward spiral. Don’t go down with the ship. Continue therapy and look for another job, even if it’s something short-term while you’re continuing your job search.

  32. Anonymous

    Just use AI to fix the perceived “tone” of your emails. I’ve used it a lot myself whenever I write an email that initially isn’t the most friendly, but after consulting with AI the result is usually a very different and more productive dialogue on both ends.

  33. Anonymous

    I, personally, would not say anything; it isn't their business. You have been in your job for 5 years and to just now come forward with this diagnosis could be perceived as "making excuses" and could potentially cause more harm than good. It would be different if you had informed your employer of this upon your hiring, but to wait 5 years to disclose it during a time when things aren't going well for the company and right after you have been reprimanded would really not be a good look.

    I say this because my daughter just recently dealt with this at her place of employment with a long time employee who had a verbal altercation with a customer. Said employee, upon being reprimanded, came forward and claimed mental health issues which came across as that employee making excuses for their behavior rather than acknowledging what happened and vowing to correct it. This is a liability for the company now (think possible lawsuit), so they are now looking for ways to terminate said employee.

  34. Anonymous

    Your gut instinct to not tell your boss about your disability is VALID. Trust that. Though, if relatable to your situation, consider sharing with HR or HR and your boss what, if any, reasonable work accommodations would be supportive to you.

    Regarding feedback to the boss, I say YES, share the feedback. AND, no need to share your disability when giving that feedback. For example: "boss, during our next 1:1 I'd like to share some feedback about our communication." Then when y'all speak, share the feedback with impact on how you work best. For example: "When you spoke to me about the vendor and used phrases like 'x', I found it (harsh/unprofessional/negative/unproductive, etc. Pick one). I prefer feedback that is clear and productive. It would work better for me in the future if our conversations were more 'x'.

    I gave a recent manager similar feedback. In my case, she ended up saying:"hmm, I disagree and don't think the way I communicated was disrespectful. We'll agree to disagree and thanks for being comfortable enough to share that with me."

    This was insufficient to me because disrespect is measured by the person receiving it, in my opinion; not by the person who is communicating disrespectfully.

    The agree to disagree, in practice, led to my former manager crossing my personal and professional boundaries again.

    So at least I had more data! This helped inform me that the manager I had was not who I wanted or needed in my work journey. I committed myself to updating my resume, asking a mentor at work for help preparing for an interview internally, and I began to apply to external positions.

    Right now, in your situation, the candid words you shared with us would likely not land well on your manager's ears.

    But absolutely provide feedback and it's impact on you and your work.

    Hopefully the boss receives the feedback amd things improve. And if not, you will have gained additional information about your boss's character. You can decide what to do with that info.

  35. Jae

    Sounds like your firm is the Titanic and you are still trying to play the violin while the ship is going down. I can hear the tremendous effort you are putting into trying to meet the (impossible) metrics. During times like this, those of us who have grown up in traumatic households are often the ones running in every direction, trying to put the fires out, trying to keep people protected— and sometimes it doesn’t even feel all that bad because we’re so good at dealing with crisis. Until we’re not, and by then, we’re so far beyond what “normal” (my therapist hates when I say that word, but it still works for me) ? persons would/could have tolerated that we can’t see how far gone something really is. At some point in our recovery journeys, we need to learn which balls that we are juggling are made of rubber—and can bounce if dropped, and which balls are made of glass. My glass balls have been relationships, my physical and mental health, my reputation in the industry.

    Setting boundaries about where your job begins and ends is critical to save energy for getting the heck out of there — and yes, it’s heard

    that the vendor is keeping you from doing your job. Dealing with situations like that is why your boss makes the big bucks. Document, document, document your efforts. “Dear Boss, We haven’t received the widgets we ordered from Vendor Doe, even though they were called in these dates, e-mails sent on these dates, so I can’t do _______whatever the next thing is.) Please advise.” And then wait.

    In a perfect world, requesting ADA accommodation for neurodiversity would be non-issue, but unfortunately, that information is too often used against us— and divulging that at this late date seems like it would only cause even more problems.

    it sounds like you are a competent, hard worker with a solid work ethic— and even though the job market is super hard, especially in finding a remote position like yours is now— from everything you’ve explained, it doesn’t seem like this is going to reverse course. Please consider putting the fiddle down and jumping into a life raft as soon as possible. Wishing you well.

  36. Anonymous

    Wow Jae. I think you nailed it. Thank you so much ?

  37. Anonymous

    It sounds like they are trying to force you out, because you are disabled. I've had it happen to me.

    I was wrongfully terminated from my last traditional job (where I worked for an employer), as I was fired for being disabled. I had enough proof that I was able to file a successful EEOC against them for allowing other employees and managers to harass and bully me due to my disabilities and for creating a hostile work environment. My former employer eventually settled out of court through the EEOC, which I was able to walk away with enough money to pay a few smaller bills and enough money that I was able to start my own small bookkeeping firm. I am also neurodivergent and have other disabilities as well, along with multiple diagnoses related to having been abused both as a child and as an adult. I've found working for myself in my current industry to be the best situation for me, as I am the one that is fully in control of my schedule and how much work that I take on at a time. I only have to answer to my clients (who are great to work with and on a rare occasion directly with their tax preparer). I love what I do now, as I can set my own schedule and do my work at a time that works best for me, especially now that my husband is on medical leave from work and we still don't know when or if he'll be able to return to work, so currently he's often home with me during the day other than when I'm taking him to his medical appointments.

    Personally, I don't think I'd even mention the fact that you are disabled to your current boss at this point as I don't think they value you anymore as an employee based on what management has recently told you. Instead I'd just quietly start looking for another place to work where you will be better supported by management, that way then when the current ship you are on finally sinks (and it will sink) you won't still be on it. No job is worth your sanity or making you feel like you aren't seen and heard.

    Working for myself has been the best thing for me given all of my disabilities and my needing to schedule appointments during the day for both myself and my husband.

    Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

  38. Anonymous

    Wow. Thank you so much for ALL of the feedback, all of it.

    What an amazing and real dialogue, albeit virtual.

    I appreciate all of you and thank you.

    I hadn't looked at this for a minute because life happens when you're making plans and I am sorry for not recognizing sooner the valuable feedback everyone provided.

    FTR, I never told my boss. I've been working on finding another position, focusing on the people I adore, celebrating team successes and being supportive during challenges, and letting go as best I can of what the reality is.

    The very best to all of you and my deepest gratitude.

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