My team keeps beating plan and last year’s numbers but my supervisor says that we have to work harder still including working more than 8 hours a day.

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October 11,2023 at 7:34AM UTC

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My team keeps beating plan and last year’s numbers but my supervisor says that we have to work harder still including working more than 8 hours a day. We’re salaried but is this legal? If it makes a difference we’re in California.

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AnonymousOctober 11,2023 at 10:34AM UTC
I’m not sure if it’s legal but you may want to consider slowing down how quickly you’re producing.
AnonymousOctober 11,2023 at 12:00PM UTC
If you are salaried exempt, then yes. The general expectation (right or wrong) with salaried/exempt employees is you work the hours needed to get the job done.
AnonymousOctober 11,2023 at 12:03PM UTC
And just a side note: I'm surprised you don't know this, haven't researched this. My experience with California-based employees (all levels)- more than any other state - they can quote California law.
AnonymousOctober 12,2023 at 1:13PM UTC
I agree, you are rude. If you're trying to help then don't be a snot, otherwise don't bother trying at all.
AnonymousOctober 11,2023 at 1:10PM UTC
It makes a HUGE difference that you're in California. So salaried employees in CA are NOT the same as in other states. You are required to be paid for ALL of your time, many positions are turned from salary into hourly for CA as this is a huge source contention in alignment with CA employment laws, as well as dictated sick hours being offered. It has been offered that this may be misleading and incorrect as provided for salaried workers. I think you will need to look into what and how someone is actually noted as hired. You really should be aware of the employment laws if you live in CA. I'm not aware of any sectors that are exempt from this or at what hierarchy in an organization this may not be true. Do your research for your state, FOR SURE.
AnonymousOctober 11,2023 at 3:42PM UTC
Overtime (ca.gov)
5.Q.Are salaried employees entitled to overtime?
A.
It depends. A salaried employee must be paid overtime unless they meet the test for exempt status as defined by federal and state laws, or unless they are specifically exempted from overtime by the provisions of the California Labor Code or one of the Industrial Welfare Commission Wage Orders regulating wages, hours and working conditions.
AnonymousOctober 11,2023 at 3:56PM UTC
Correct, as mentioned it depends where and what they're at in their org., as mentioned.
AnonymousOctober 11,2023 at 3:40PM UTC
I didn't think it was rude at all It was an observation I had from working with many employees in CA over the years. Perhaps it came off as rude but that was absolutely not my intent. Although honestly, I think it would be in everyone's best interest to research and know the laws in their states rather than relying on internet strangers. But at the same time, I would absolutely consider your response rude. Even now???
AnonymousOctober 11,2023 at 10:56PM UTC
When I was a teacher, I worked 80-90 hour weeks sometimes. Yes, it's legal. I wouldn't ask HR. HR usually reports to the CEO. I'd call a lawyer in your state and ask them for free (usually most have free initial consults). I would not engage in a lawsuit unless it's truly vile work you're doing for them.
If you're the manager, advocate for raises for the whole team. If the CEO says no, then maybe try to find a new job with work life balance.
AnonymousOctober 12,2023 at 12:10PM UTC
You could just refuse to work more than 8 hours. He can't hold you hostage in your seat and not let you physically leave the building or log off.
AnonymousOctober 12,2023 at 12:43PM UTC
If you are salaried and not hourly then yes this is legal, even in California.
Sara TrostOctober 12,2023 at 2:37PM UTC
Not all salary positions are actually exempt. You might want to check your job classification and make sure you are in a job where you are actually exempt and not entitled to overtime as a salaried employee.
AnonymousOctober 13,2023 at 6:13PM UTC
I’m currently working 60 for 40 salaried. I feel your pain but need the job and time to look elsewhere, somehow.
AnonymousOctober 13,2023 at 6:22PM UTC
My mantra for salaried employees is "You are paid for the responsibilities you have, not the hours you work." While this typically does require more than 40 hours per week, if you are meeting your commitments your supervisor should not be requiring additional hours.
That said, it's not illegal.
AnonymousOctober 13,2023 at 6:40PM UTC
I think that responses should be civil and helpful, concerned for you.