I had an employee who was unhappy about receiving a "meets expectations" review.

I had an employee who was unhappy about receiving a "meets expectations" review.

She was promoted last year based on the fact that she was doing extra work that we did feel was above her level at the time. However, after the promotion, this became the new normal. I feel bad that she was upset, but overall, this is what we, as a leadership team, decided.

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  1. Alexis Gladstone

    I'm not sure what advice you are looking for Leigha, so I'll just share some thoughts.

    A lot of people are upset being rated "meets" because they don't see it as doing a good job. It doesn't help that in most organizations the rating is tied to merit increases. I've had to explain to people who were recently promoted and had more/different responsibilities, that it's hard to be above "meets" when they are still in learning mode.

    If you haven't already I would explain the above to her and also share what you think it will take to be above "meets" next year. Since she sounds like someone who takes initiative to do more, this gives her something to strive for.

  2. Anonymous

    People need to realize that a "meets expectations" review is good. It means you are doing what is expected of you in your job. If she continually does work that falls outside of her new role, while continuing to do new her job well, then you can get "exceeds expectations". She also needs to understand that with any promotion, comes more responsibility. Now there's a reset with a higher level for her to maintain.

  3. Leigha Felix

    Yes, I just talked to my boss about this. We need to change the narrative that meets expectations is bad.

  4. Paulla Fetzek, MSEd

    Question: Was the employee informed that what she had been doing would now be considered "the standard" after her promotion? If not, I understand why she's upset.

    And, even if she was told - some employees aren't happy with meeting expectations, even if this is a good thing. Their goal is to exceed each year. I'd be disappointed in a review if I was given a "meets expectations" rating.

  5. Leigha Felix

    Yes, she was told that with the promotion the tasks she was performing were now the standard.

  6. Crystal Chapman

    I would give clear examples of what exceeding in this new role looks like and help her see what else she could do. Sounds like you have a high performer who likes to be recognized for her achievements.

  7. Anonymous

    Last year was last year and as someone else mentioned, 'meets expectations' is the A.

    I know I'm going to be facing a similar situation in a few months when we go over reviews. A few team members rated themselves as exceeding expectations but there is nothing to back that up. They have done their jobs well and within the stated metrics, the Expected.

    None of them have put forth effort to go above and beyond, none of them have offered to take on responsibilities, none of them have stepped up when opportunities have come up. More importantly, none of them provided any kind of backup for why they felt they exceeded the expectations.

    Exceeds may get you better merit but there needs to be evidence that backs it up.

  8. Anonymous

    The idea that an employee should not be surprised during a review is something I completely believe in. Perhaps except with something positive.

    She thought things were better than average and being received differently, as did you and the leadership team. My question is why? Sounds like there should have been better communication throughout the year and setting of goals and expectations.

    No one likes to go into something with one expectation and leave with something entirely different. Imagine working for a whole year thinking X but then Y happens.

    Idk, I would assess how this happened and adjust accordingly. And don't let this fester with your employee(s).

  9. Anonymous

    I wouldn't expect to receive an Exceeds rating right after a promotion. But I also am frustrated lately with constantly getting Meets. We are a five scale rating system and for some of my goals I am rated exceeds, for some - high meets, but the overall is Meets. Not sure how they do the math then. I think it is the forced curve rating thing. I put so much effort, but for three years it is Meets. Feel demotivated, because it is subjective. So don't tell me that Meets is good. It is sort of "passing", but nothing more. When you put so much to the work place, exceed some of the goals and then because of money and bonus get the same, it is not good.

  10. Maggie Stone

    Have you explained the rationale to the employee as clearly as you have explained it in your post? If not, please do and tell her what would earn her exceeds expectations next year.

  11. Anonymous

    I know my last few jobs we were told point blank no one will ever get a exceeds expectations unless they are doing boss level work , also they only are allowed so many exceeds expectations ratings so they were few and far between the vast majority fall in meets , to me that was like well why have that rating if no one ever gets it ? So it could be they only have so many to give out and that’s it I’m sure it has to do with the amount of raises given everything is tied to the money

  12. Anonymous

    I went to my manager after receiving a 'meets' even though I had taken the initiative to learn every single job in the place. Whenever something was needed and the regular person wasn't there, I was rotated in. He told me that was expected (it wasn't, he was simply cheap with payroll) and that I had to go beyond that. I organized a bowling league. That got me the raise. It was the dumbest corporate culture moment I have ever had.

  13. Anonymous

    This is funny with bowling league! Maybe I should do this as all the other efforts I put for my regular job apparently are "expected".

  14. Anonymous

    I was flabbergasted when that was the thing that did it. I think at that point, I had checked off every box that he kept listing and he had no choice but to give it to me.

  15. Anonymous

    It sounds like the employee doesn't understand the "normal" expectations of her new position. Going forward, I would be explicit with her about what specifically she needs to achieve in terms of goals to get her to meets, and to exceeds.

  16. Anonymous

    I agree, but this may also be part of the manager and leadership's lack of communication.

  17. Anonymous

    And? Have you given her the why? If you have not give her a grid something in writing that shows the curve of where and how you grade. Maybe make it an overview of expectations and how you look at the pool of reviews and where the pieces fall in the decisions. Do you compare her to the job, to others, to the goals etc. She needs to understand where she can EXCEED expectations to continue to grow. If she is always expecting promotions each time she is reviewed perhaps let her know that is not a standard you can deliver and she needs to reset her expectations accordingly so that she is not let down.

  18. Anonymous

    This is too tenuous of a question for me, going to watch the show of comments though.........

  19. Barbara Rickman Power

    Was she told that her above average performance had become her new normal? If not, I can understand her being upset.

  20. Barb Hansen

    I've had a few "meets expectations" reviews in my past that I was really really unhappy about. I was unofficially working 2 full time jobs at this company, working between 12 to 14 hours a day, managing a team of 12 and doing most of the 2:00 am code launches.

    Twice in the four years I was at this company, I received the CEOs special "Circle of Excellence" award (stock and cash bonus) given to 20 people a year in a company of over 8000 employees.

    My team won the top performing team award twice in the four years I was at this company.

    And during my annual reviews I never got more than "meets expectations." When I asked why my work, that was rewarded by the CEO's Circle of Excellence Award that 20 people received each year could be considered "meets expectations". Doesn't the whole concept of a circle of excellence mean that those 20 people exceeded expectations?

    The answer was "it's just what happens at this company"

    That still makes no sense to me other than their rules for annual reviews are different than other ways employees are rewarded.

  21. Anonymous

    Could be a few things at play here - your company might take a lazy approach to assessing its workforce - and may employ a 'normal distribution curve' (bell curve). If so, that could be exacerbated if the bell curve is coupled with compensation, as large companies are notoriously cheap. Your receipt of the CoE award should have overriden being subject to the 68% of people who 'Meet Expectations'. Overall - it is a demotivating, lazy and ultimately dishonest method to assess performance.

  22. KellyW43

    When you get a promotion and it becomes the norm, you need to expect a meets expectation.

    If you've gone above and beyond in a new way, then you will get the exceeds expectations again.

    In work and in life, you can't continue to coast on the same laurels.

  23. TestE Cull

    Ahh, yes, chasing the uncatcheable carrot. Sure fire way to workaholicism and burnout. ??

    I dont even bother. If the day only requires 47% I wont gige 47.1. Quittin time bell rings I am G O N E GONE. Not answering calls or texts off the clock not working oj weekends, holidays, vacation. Corporate will chuck me out the window for a ten cent quarterly profit boost whether I clown myself or not, so why bother?

  24. Anonymous

    A performance review should never be a surprise - do better in your 1:1s to let them know transparently how they are on track. The performance review should be in alignment with what's been discussed in the 1:1s. Make clear expectations.

  25. TestE Cull

    She's probably maxed out and getting fed up with chasing the uncatcheable carrot you lot dangle in her face? Nothing is ever good enough with ya'll its always 'we want more more more'. Shit like this is why I only give what I absolutely must and not a drop more.

  26. Anonymous

    Love this reply for its accuracy. Upper management loves dangling the uncatchable carrot under the guise of 'personal growth and development'.

  27. TestE Cull

    Yep. I learned maybe six months into my first job how pointless chasing that carrot truly was. These days, if the day's woroad only asks 27% from me, I wont even give 27.1%, and if the quittin time bell rings I am G O N E GONE. I have a life outside of work to get to.

    It's particularly harsh for salaried employees because they dont get time and a half for their overtime like us hourly slaves do. We, at least, get a slightly fatter check for it. Salaried employees do not. Personally, I think this should be outlawed, but for now, it just makes the carrot chase even worse...

  28. Anonymous

    In my experience, the number of “exceeds expectations” is 80% dictated top-down from what upper management will “allow” recognition of, and 20% based on actual individual performance bottom up. Point to the quiet-quitters on that one.

    WRT to the actual question here: employee did an excellent job in previous position, and so was promoted. Now, in current position, she’s doing an average job. That’s normal. It would even be normal to have several strugglebus areas in the next level up. She’s fine. It’s normal.

    I hope the OP can find some ways to support her employee as she grows into the new role. Acknowledging growth and adaption.

  29. Anonymous

    She is Def going to look for a new job. Hope you won't be unhappy about that.

  30. Mary Mathiowetz-Shaffer

    The biggest issues I've seen with employees being upset about their year-end reviews is that they had no idea what was coming - often because leadership never offered feedback throughout the year on areas needing focus.
    If employees are aware they have areas of improvement and choose not to address, then those year-end conversations go much differently.

    Some people are self-aware of underperformance - most are not. Just like leadership may not be aware of obstacles that are causing problems for their employees, resulting in underperformance. When there is regular coaching and feedback (positive and challenging), you generally have higher performing teams, as there is communication - in both directions.

    Poor or mediocre performance that is a year-end surprise to any employee, in my opinion, is as much the fault of leadership as it is the poor performers.

  31. Kimberly McKenzie-Klemm

    I hate to say it...but I worked for a company where "meets expectations" was the highest you could earn on your annual review. If you "met expectations" for your annual goals then your salary promotion and bonus at bonus time were assured. Annual goals were set first by managers (for their departments) then by teams (for all team members) and then individually (by each employee for their own contributions). It takes an adjustment of a mindset to realize excellence is expected and goals are routinely met is an accomplishment to be proud of, but it sounds as if this unhappy employee isn't hearing the review is because she stepped up correctly.

  32. Anonymous

    I think some people assume yearly promotions are the norm. It most cases they aren't. If you see people moving up in their career, it's because they leave their current spot for a higher title somewhere else. In my experience, that is more the norm than staying in the same place for years on end. Plus, you rarely get a good bump in $ if you get promoted at the same company.

    All that to say, if someone is expecting a yearly promotion and doesn't get it, they're going to look elsewhere. That is the way of the world right now in a lot of knowledge-based jobs.

  33. Anonymous

    I worked in a department at a large company that the only time you got exceeds expectations was when you were getting a promotion. I spoke to someone else in a different area at the company and they received exceeds expectations regularly. It really does vary.

  34. Anonymous

    Your organization should be holding calibration sessions to ensure fair and equitable performance evaluations are being conducted. If I want to provide an 'exceeds expectations' evaluation for an employee I have to justify it with concrete examples and it is discussed and compared to the work others at the same level are performing.

  35. Anonymous

    Having to provide evidence for any rating should be required. But I like that your company requires for exceed expectation.

  36. Anonymous

    Hey! This probably would have been a good time to use the post anonymously feature. Your employees feedback should be private.

  37. Anonymous

    Yes, I thought the same exact thing!

  38. Jenn Paster Detmer

    It's probably a good time to review what "meet expectations" is. I would sit down and explain what that means for her current position, what it would take to get an "exceeds expectations" for next review cycle, etc. and try to be concrete about it. The more clarity and transparency you can provide with measurable goals and how the process of evaluation works, the easier it is for your employees to navigate within those definitions and accept your decisions.

  39. Juli Melendez

    Associates should never be surprised by their review nor rating. I think this is a good reminder to be having conversations throughout the review period so this doesn’t happen again in the future with anyone.

  40. Anonymous

    That is effectively the corporate honey trap of upward mobility. From a job expectations perspective, the goalposts keep moving based on Level, so the net byproduct is such that the recipient of the promotion has to invest a 'super-human' effort to meet the threshold of 'exceeds expectations'. It is a fantastic way to burn people out, and it often ends up not being worth the benefits which are accrued as part of the promotion (increased pay, elevated standing amongst peers).

  41. TestE Cull

    Chasing the Carrot, what I call it. And I never chase.

  42. Anonymous

    I’m pretty sure that 90% of this decision was based your personal opinion and/or perception which is unfair to her. This is the issue with these reviews because it allows leaders to be biased. The fact that you felt the need to post this on a public forum is your guilt about the bad decision that you made. Extra work doesn’t equate to being a high performer, it’s about the quality of the work, the values that the employee possess and the tangible and intangible things that they did to positively impact the organization. I wish companies would stop hiring and promoting people to leadership roles when they’re not truly qualified to be a leader. Leadership is a gift that comes with wisdom, knowledge and understanding. It should not be taken lightly because you set the tone for the organization and have the ability to significantly impact the lives of other people.

  43. Anonymous

    There is something about the framing of "meets expectations" that can feel demoralizing. I've certainly felt it as an IC.

    As a manager, I consistently communicate that most of us, most years, fall into this range and that that is how we want companies to run (too many "exceeds" and goals may be set too low or lazy leadership; too many "does not meet" may indicate unachieveable goals or something wrong with the company environment).

    I also communicate that getting this rating is great as long as we are making progress on goals we've set together that are meaningful and measurable. I have conversations about what "meeting" and "exceeding" looks like.

    Then, in addition to conversations about those goals, I hold myself accountable by asking them: am I doing all I can to help them achieve success?

  44. Jess Whitteker

    I believe that after a promotion, during the first year in a new position, unless you have prior experience in a similar role, it is reasonable to meet expectations rather than exceed them. Learning and mastering a new set of skills takes time, and exceeding expectations may not be immediately feasible. The employee in question may have had enthusiastic personal goals and may have felt disappointed in themselves for not mastering the new set of skills more quickly. However, they may have also felt that they were catching on more quickly than what was expected by management, and as a result, were not receiving the recognition they deserved.

  45. Anonymous

    Well if you want to keep her and the new normal you have to promote her or risk her going to another employer who will pay her the money.

    I think it’s a risk not worth taking so you should work with her if she is a good employee since it cost so much time resources you train a new person. Additionally you will probably have to hire someone later for more then the amount she was asking so really promoting her is a win win. That’s my thinking but clearly you think differently. Again who is to say a new person will be as good?

  46. Anonymous

    I respectfully disagree with this, though diverse responses are why we all get to provide input.

    Thank you for posting this .

  47. Anonymous

    My boss promoted me last year for same type of situation, and I received Meets Expectations this latest review. A point away from Exceeds Expectations. I was still pleased with it, as there’s always room for improvement. My boss was also very complimentary in my review. I was okay with that.

    Your employee should be grateful for the Meets and the past promotion.

  48. Anonymous

    I agree that framing the "Meets expectations" can overcome this. It could have been crafted with, "You have met the challenges with the new role by ... [list of accomplishments]. You still need to work toward ... [new set of goals]. Therefore, you have met the expectations for what we wanted this year, and we look forward to seeing you progress even further. "Meets expectations" means they reached last year's goals. "Exceeding expectations" means they went above and beyond. I assume the latter is the case.

    If they are also expecting another promotion, you may want to lay out the criteria you are looking for to make that happen. Assure her that this does not reflect on her as a good worker. The nature of the promotion also raised the expectations to a new level.

  49. Francoise Thimon

    No need to feel bad, you did what you know to have been the correct rating at the time; this said, "leadership" people should be able to have maturity, we can't be happy about everything...

  50. Anonymous

    If she was promoted halfway during the year and she was doing work beyond her normal duties to get his promotion, it's only right to recognize her for those efforts. Which would be a rate higher than meets expectations. Most times managers are not transparent when conducting reviews as they try to avoid the push back from the employee.

  51. Anonymous

    Where does it say she was promoted half way through the year?

  52. KathyAnn Krajcik

    She shouldn't be upset. She was promoted for her efforts which ordinarily brings more work and responsibility. She's not rated on her previous level. She is reviewed at the new, higher level. Nothing wrong with that.

  53. Anonymous

    I used to have a boss who would ONLY give "meets expectations" or lower reviews. He said he "didn't believe in" giving anything higher, even though I deserved it, because then there would be no room for improvement. I was angry every year over that...told him that higher ratings wouldn't be available if they weren't expected to be given. Every year I would not sign the review until I had added an addendum stating what he told me and that I disagreed with his opinion. Looking back, I don't know why the hell I continued to stay there working for that idiot.

  54. Communication Coach

    There must be better language for evaluations than the message that you "get-by-with-what-you-are-doing". Motivating a worker is what a good manager/director does - this is a rather offensive description of how one is doing in their work. There should always be a compliment on a part they do well, even if they are called on the rug with a need to do better on something. When an employee works hard and gets - you're ok, it is deflating to the motivation to do better. Use terms that inspire and make a worker want to meet the next goal which should be laid out by management. How is appreciation shown for effort? Employees that know they are appreciated are more productive! Please consider updating language and protocol for evaluation to include what is appreciated about the employee, what they do well and what can be improved or work for the next goal. Imagine working out, loss of weight, getting makeup done and someone says - yeah, what I expected - not a thing positive about that!!

  55. Anonymous

    I questioned that on my last evaluation as I felt it was a slap in the face and I was told...."we have high expectations of you".....

  56. Anonymous

    one may exceed expectations in one role however a new role brings new skills , tasks to master. This is the conversation that needs to be had with her. Help her be successful to reach where she would like to be, rated as exceptional.

  57. Sharmil McKee

    I think your employee's feelings are legitimate. I would acknowledge her feelings. And help her map out a plan for the year to help get achieve her goals next year. The plan should include training, mentorship, and tracking of a relevant metric.

  58. Anonymous

    Excellent post!

  59. Joyce Glas Nielsen

    I’m concerned about your last statement that “we as a leadership team, decided“. Was there any conversation throughout her first year regarding her performance? I have an executive MBA in organizational design and I taught college for 15 years. One point I always emphasize is that an employee’s review should never come as a surprise. It should be part of an ongoing conversation with the employee. Each employee should receive feedback regularly. That way, there is no “new normal.“ Instead, you are reinforcing your expectations of that employee and he, or she knows how to adjust their behavior, work ethic, or whatever might be needed to adjust to meet your expectations.

  60. Joyce Glas Nielsen

    I also forgot to mention…. Performance evaluations should be completed separately from monetary increases. Tying the two together, as you are experiencing, can cause much heartache.

  61. Janet Parkhurst

    Hi Joyce,

    I so agree with what you've said, here. While I despise "micro managing," ongoing distance from a direct report is unacceptable, and can be actually destructive. There needs to be an ongoing conversation. Everyone needs feedback. Especially when that person is either "new and learning" or recently promoted (to duties once thought over her head). I think the employee here demonstrated huge initiative and willingness to grow -- even if that "growth" included out-and-out failure at some thing or things required to succeed at that next level. Instead of applauding and praising her efforts in her new role, management simply passing it off as "the new normal" strikes me as sloppy, uncaring and deeply unappreciative. (BTW, "new normal" is just modern corporate speak for "taken for granted," in my book.) This employee sounds like a joy and a "keeper." But given this situation, I hope she converts her hurt and disappointment into a healthy anger and takes her new skills and business acumen with her to a much better company, with a much more tuned-in management team.

  62. Anonymous

    This post has me thinking about how complicated evaluations (giving and receiving) are. There are several issues.

    1)the expectation that everyone is “above average”. Since when is being told you’re doing your job as expected a bad thing? The culture of awarding average performance is pervasive and leads to this challenge.

    The result is that we all want evaluations that are at least 4/5 (myself included) and are hurt by anything less. We were taught that a “c”’ is a bad grade and we view “meets expectations” with that lens.

    This does put managers in a tough position. How do you evaluate someone who is doing their job but not stretching beyond the job description? The key is how the message is delivered— as others have shared, find language to motivate rather than instilling despair.

    2) For generations, the evaluation system has been tough. Ideally managers and employees are engaged in continuous feedback. In reality, too many employees are hit upside the head by unexpected poor or meh evaluations. Their boss never indicated an issue. This shouldn’t happen but feedback that something needs to improve is always hard to give so managers erroneously avoid it until it’s evaluation time . In my experience you can couch it In a “complement sandwich” but honestly all the employee will hear is the areas for improvement.

    I do wish that evaluations weren’t necessary, but they are, particularly in large organizations. When well done they are useful to the employee. They help make decisions on pay increases and promotions. And, sadly they are necessary when managing an employee with poor performance (it does happen).

    This post didn’t supply enough detail on the conversation itself to know how the OP delivered the message. I hope it was with empathy and specifics of what exceeding expectations would look like.

  63. Anonymous

    Wow, I LOVE this response SO much!!

    Wish you were MY boss!

  64. BeaBoss105337

    This type of evaluation process should only be used in regard to merit raises....it translates to the value of performance......in organizations where everyone gets the same raise...regardless of performance, it does nothing but demoralize good employees.......

  65. Anonymous

    If done well, the evaluation shouldn't demoralize good employees-- they would receive a good evaluation, right? I've yet to work in an organization (corporate, non-profit or government- I've done it all) where evaluations had NOTHING to do with merit increases-- if not the pay raise, then definitely promotion potential.

    Now if a good employee isn't getting a good evaluation, the problem is with the evaluator/manager. That's a conversation with upper management or HR, and the employee might want to move to a place that will value their skills if management sides with the person who did the evaluation.

    Sadly, there are a few people who think they are rock stars, and they are not. They blame the manager for their mediocre evaluations and fail to look inward -- a key sign of this would be outright rejection of all feedback on what needs to be improved.

    Imperfect system, yes. Can you recommend an alternative?

  66. KathyAnn Krajcik

    How does this demoralize good employees, and I've never been in a place where everyone gets the same raise. Even if they do, what does that have to do with this? I've been in two large companies that didn't do the standard evaluation process, and it worked very well. Employees loved it. Before implementing a no formal evaluation process, one of the companies did an open survey to all employees asking them what changes they wanted to see. In the top three was to do away with evaluations. It seems to be what people want, and it's less stressful.

  67. KathyAnn Krajcik

    No, evaluations are not necessary. I worked for a big company who did away with them. However, regular meetings to check in on how things are going is expected. The evaluation process does nothing but create stress. If we regularly communicate, there is no need for an evaluation.

  68. Anonymous

    So you do have an evaluation process-- the regular communication-- but what happens when that doesn't happen? How does management ensure all levels are communicating with their employees on a regular basis? This is the problem with this system. It sounds like you've worked with good people or/are a good manager and make sure this is done. Too often, a "no evaluation" process results in no feedback or sudden news that you're not performing-- you see A LOT of these comments on FairyGodBoss. People had no idea they weren't meeting expectations and poof,they are fired.

    Are these regular meetings documented? Or what happens if someone is not performing-- do they really not have some sort of documentation of that?

    So, as a former manager and an employee in many settings- corporate, non-profit, large and small, I stand by the need for some form of formal review- you don't have to attach a number (that is the worst, I hated having to pinpoint a number for an employee or myself in self-evaluations) but something needs to be documented, for the excelling employee as well as the failing.

  69. KathyAnn Krajcik

    HR had a system set up whereby a reminder would be sent to the employee and the evaluator to have a meeting. Following the meeting, a report of the meeting was entered into the system. There was still documentation, but not this big formal process that stresses everyone out at a time of the year when there are enough stresses going on.

  70. Anonymous

    If the employee was promoted because odd the quality of her work, the course of her work and career changed. Not everyone gets to that in a given year. Her review should have been exceeded expectations.

  71. Darwin Kysor

    Comparing her to herself versus comparing her to others in similar positions - two different things.

  72. Eloisa Jacinto

    Hi, is it clear what meets and exceeds expectations look like in her new role?

  73. Anonymous

    What do you mean by "the new normal"?

    Many companies encourage managers to artificially undervalue even consistently high producers, just to keep salaries flat at lower levels - while upper management retains ever higher bonuses. I won't assume that's what's happened here, but if it is, then she's right to be upset - and even if it's not, her feelings are still valid. Even when changing positions, high producers tend to remain high producers, quickly recognizing the new goal posts and overshooting them by a mile.

    What are you doing as a manager to advocate for her when she does exceed expectations, and/or to offer her projects or other opportunities toward her continued development and exposure?

  74. Anonymous

    Love this comment.

  75. Anonymous

    I just experienced this last year with a new manager at my job. They changed so much about my job and I tried advocating for myself to no avail. Ended up stepping down as it was negatively impacting my health.

  76. LORI-ANN BURLINGAME

    When she was promoted, did you have a 1:1 with her to let her know what your expectations were? Are your expectations unreasonable? She sounds like a good worker, but she may not have the "Type A" personality you expect of her. Management teams are often unrealstic about setting goals for others. They often set goals for others that they themselves cannot obtain.

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