Company restructured and I'm performing two roles now!

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1. AnonymousAugust 24,2023 at 2:35PM UTC

   I went through something very similar and as soon as I finally got the band increase, they piled on even more work, having me take on an additional team. They offered buyouts earlier this year and I took the money and ran. Found another job very quickly. They replaced me with two people. Polish that resume and take your talents elsewhere.

2. AnonymousAugust 25,2023 at 2:12AM UTC

   Thank you. I agree. I'm searching and positioning myself for future success!

3. AnonymousAugust 24,2023 at 3:08PM UTC

   Hmm, sounds like they're taking advantage, 5 years is too long to wait for an increased band level. Honestly, Q4/Q1 sounds like a stalling tactic from your supervisor. I would start looking immediately, whether you take a new position, to assess the market, or use it to force their hand. Sounds like this has been a discussion for a while and you've given them ample time.

4. AnonymousAugust 25,2023 at 2:09AM UTC

   Thanks for the response. I agree with your entire statement and my patience is very thin at this point, so my professional search continues for sure. My supervisor and our lead company executive to the CEO are both working directly with HRM to make this right. HRM is really the bear in this situation. I'm seeing a lot of plausible opportunity in the job market, so we'll see how this all works out. Again, thanks for the comment.

5. AnonymousAugust 24,2023 at 4:26PM UTC

   Just understand that it's all just chatter at the moment. The company is controlling the pace, context and any offering. They are dragging their feet because they are not thinking there is any risk of losing you.

   What would increase your leverage and level out the playing field is to interview and get and have an offer or at least a prospective offer.

   That gives everyone pause and suddenly instead shooting down the quarterly request, they have to fast track it.

6. AnonymousAugust 25,2023 at 1:55AM UTC

   Thanks for the response. Company leadership and HRM have been advised that I will either find a role that satisfices my career progression goals or departure from the company. Leveraging an outside offer is on the table, this move is often frowned upon, but I'm most certainty exploring new opportunities.

7. AnonymousAugust 25,2023 at 2:02PM UTC

   Only frowned upon when they don't recognize your value (which is pretty clear) When leaders want their Rockstars happy they don't drag their feet. It's a major priority. An worker who is not clearly treated as a Rockstar is just another worker. Things happen on a convenient schedule. These workers are allowed to come and go. They are not treated with urgency or concern.

   Like in any healthy relationship, you judge intent by action not words, excuses abd platitudes.

8. AnonymousAugust 24,2023 at 4:35PM UTC

   There is Subject mater expertise and there is Business savvy. I'm afraud this passive stance is not impressing the decision makers. So it's time to take control.

   I know it's scary, but it's time to step up. Trust me you will learn to trust your sense of value and what you bring to the table.

9. AnonymousAugust 25,2023 at 12:27PM UTC

   Sounds to me like the supervisor is feeding you a load of BS. Unless you have actual proof that he/she said anything about this, I would take that with a very small grain of salt.

10. AnonymousAugust 28,2023 at 12:22AM UTC

    Thank you for the response.

    There is always a chance for doing one thing and saying another to tow the company line. I have reason to believe my supervisor is 25/75% (75% in my favor) chance that the supervisor is saying one thing to me and intending for another.

    As stated within other responses, my supervisor has expressed openly how they feel about the company and their lack of ability to get this done and do it right. My supervisor knows that there is no replacement if I decided to leave the company and they will be saddled with a lot of work.

    Backstory - This supervisor was promised a team of four before taking their role in mid 2022. The company advised they were starting restructuring process and that they would not be getting team member at all (two months after hire). They were advised that they could have myself and one other person (who is hourly), or no one at all. They took both of us because this role they accepted has not been success for the last four employees in five years. My now hourly co-worker is getting jerked around also, but she is closer to retirement age and doesn't have to work. So you can see where the concern is for our now supervisor.

    I agree. I'm very aware of the leadership game (I used to play it in my previous professional life).

    Update posted above. I'm pending a response to the most recent offer push-back.

    Hoping for the best, planning for the worst.

11. Grisel Scarantino, Career and Work-Life Fulfillment CoachAugust 25,2023 at 1:07PM UTC

    I’d encourage you to keep your options open. If you’re not already doing so, take a look at what is available out there that both leverages your favorite parts of your skill set and pays what you know you deserve.

    Some companies work on their annual budgets in Q3, which could possibly account for why you are being told Q4 of Q1 of next year. Nonetheless, since you don’t have certainty on how the compensation strategy will pan out, it’s good to have your eggs in more than one basket.

12. AnonymousAugust 27,2023 at 10:26PM UTC

    Thank you! You summed up my thought process and current efforts!

13. AnonymousAugust 25,2023 at 5:29PM UTC

    I would not interview for the role. You clearly have earned it. If you want to stay at the company let them know your expectations about increase and go from there. If you don't see it in a set amount of time and during that waiting period if I were you I would interview elsewhere. Check your value and see how it goes.

14. AnonymousAugust 27,2023 at 10:25PM UTC

    I agree with your response.

    Our company doesn't want to create a position for interview and they don't want current employee's interviewing for new roles. In this case specifically, they know I'm extremely qualified and they have been hiring younger, paying less, and retiring and letting go of all high-earners. HRM doesn't know my supervisor (on the DL) would choose me all day. LOL My supervisor is already afraid of losing me (thankfully) and doesn't want to start over with a new person. I couldn't even imagine having to bring someone new in and train them myself.

    Interviewing for new roles is a thing within our company unfortunately. HRM knows that employees use this to leverage their advantage because there is no limit to the requested benefits increase and income levels. Internally the unknown written rule is no more than 15%, but they prefer 10%. If I was afforded the opportunity to interview I would shoot for the top pay with my historical and current experience and education & qualification and go for ~40+% increase in base salary (from 82K) (I responded today above with an update within the thread), plus I can request a band level of choice with my employment offer to position for the next level (senior professional band). Especially, now that I know there are three levels within each band (info provided in update).

    I'm holding out with good intentions to get the band level and professional position notoriety, but I'm willing to take their 15% base salary increase offer that I received on Monday. We'll see what happens and hopefully soon.

    Either way, I'm going to push hard for what I want. If they let me go, this might be blessing in disguise for me with a more positive future and the loss would be on them.

    **Just as a fun surprise. Over the past six months, I have been creating huge dependency on role and knowledge for all company teams and leadership and our ~4k+ supplier account base and relationships around the globe. We are running many accounts very tight or they have been problematic for some time (not counting many I'm currently working) and they would be instant show stoppers and huge revenue losses for the company. I started this effort knowing it would be harder on me upfront, but these two role and promotion concern is non-sense and gone on too long. Start the effort knowing my up and coming summer two week vacation would be a great test bed. This would be my proof of worth, at least to myself. Historical vacations in years past, I would get on each morning with my coffee while everyone slept (I'm an early morning person) and checked and handled problematic and easy quick requirements. Armed with my computer and phone on vacation, I was contacted so many times both internally and externally (~60+ times easy) and came back to ~1000+ emails. A little stressful for me, but while I was gone there were manufacturing line downs, shipping concerns, material quality, credit holds, shipping holds, late to pays, account updates, contract delays, system issues, mistakes and validation of information issues and know how questions and timely concerns, etc.. My supervisor extremely distort and was pressured many times to contact me to help the company. My plan and effort worked. I'm now moving to plan B. Sanitizing my data, cleaning my computer, moving my documented processes and job aids to my data storage and a few other efforts being applied to include continuing the independence with more sanitized responses and limited feedback. Less being the 'helpy-helperson' person both internally and externally.

    Lets see how it goes. Hope for the very best and plan for the worst.

    Thanks for the response. Greatly appreciated.

15. AnonymousAugust 26,2023 at 3:24PM UTC

    It sounds like you're happy and productive and are waiting for the company to throw you a bone so I would sit tight and one day they will.

16. AnonymousAugust 26,2023 at 6:58PM UTC

    Honestly, is your reply sarcasm?

17. AnonymousAugust 27,2023 at 9:35PM UTC

    The response was good actually. I know how communication like this can be flat and uninterruptable. Thanks for your comment. Respect!

18. AnonymousAugust 27,2023 at 9:00PM UTC

    You nailed it! Thanks for the comment.

    Yes. The work I'm doing is never-ending, very complex, and no one wants to do it. I didn't want to post a novel in my initial post, but there are many positives that I weigh constantly against the negative organizational aspects. Here are a few of the positives:

    -100% Remote (sometimes I go into the office for meetings and negotiations, etc.) My brother and I always say this is like ~$10K+ benefit (if I want a new job, this has to be the same)

    -I live three stop-signs away from work (top speed 35 MPH). I love saying this. LOL My brother is mostly remote, but when he has to go into work for important organizational requirements. He has to rent a vehicle (company paid) and drive over 8 hrs to get there. No Thanks!

    -I'm top salary for my original Analyst role (salary base: 79K)

    -Roles are independent and based on metrics and performance

    -No time off tracking. 5 weeks in the norm, so I don't abuse that.

    -Flexible with life requirements as long as they don't impact working efforts (appointments, etc.)

    -I have PTSD and other health concerns from my time in the service, so the company is very respectful of these facts.

    This second role, global sourcing. The income base range is approximately ~$75K - 125K+ depending on time and experience. I requested the base level band change and a 35% base income increase. Note that I have years of sourcing, contracting, and purchasing experience they know that. I have been wanting to move to sourcing for years, but positions have not come up during my time with the company and this is an awesome team of people. This is not a brag, but I have a masters degree and a number of educational requirements that apply to these roles. Also, I'm currently in a company educational requirement (that they are paying for) that leads to project requirement and more qualifications. Supposedly, this can also lead to another promotion. But if they (meaning HRM) are treating me like this after seven years and two roles and no promotions. I can only imagine what can happen at the end of this training. I keep thinking to myself, "Am I willing to stay the course?"

    Up Date: This past Monday, I was offered 15% base salary increase (which I was surprised they didn't come back with 10%), but only a two position move. No one in our organization knew that there was a Professional Band (PB) step (1, 2, 3). There is no HRM policy outlining this or promotion rules, etc. So the offer was PB1 (which I didn't know I was) to PB3. One level move shy of the starting level of Lead Professional Band level 1 (LPB1). My supervisor and I suspect that HR doesn't want me in LPB1, because annual bonus levels increase from 5 to 10%. It is always about the money. Also, HR is advising that an employee can't move more than two levels... but again, no policy outlining this to the workforce.

    For my own sanity, I did not cave. Just in case leadership is in on this one and not just HRM. I agreed to the 15% if they can move the position from PB3 to LPB1. The justification provided again has many justifications: notoriety amongst peers (this is a thing in communication, any position less is treated with disregard. I might as well be an hourly employee), LPB1 is the base entry level position for sourcing and the global sourcing is much harder that direct material sourcing team. I have been there seven years working with all teams throughout our business within the company and many of these teams (and their leadership) come to me for assistance, business processes, and other educational and help aspects. I love being helpful, wanted and successful.

    Sorry for the long post. Now you know how my coworkers feel when they receive my emails. LOL Thanks for taking this ride with me, reading my details and providing great feedback to date has been very helpful for me. Appreciate you all and this website for such great opportunity to share, learn, and be supportive to others.

    So one can kind of see what I'm up against.

    Another update pending...

    Again, appreciate you all. Thanks for the support and many prospective.

19. AnonymousAugust 28,2023 at 3:38AM UTC

    Awesome, you did it. Your level headed strategy worked and a 15% increase is great especially in these economic times. Great job!

20. AnonymousAugust 27,2023 at 4:57AM UTC

    Bring it up with the supervisor that you are doing two people's work in addition to that being a higher band work and that you need a promotion.

21. AnonymousAugust 27,2023 at 8:06PM UTC

    Thanks for the comment. It was my supervisors idea to bring me to the sourcing team and they have been working to make this right quarter over quarter. My supervisor is very frustrated as well, in confidence, they are feeling very off-put and frustrate with how this (and other things) are being handled as of late. I would be surprised if they are looking for a new job. We all would believe a simple move could be something so easy for a global company, but they run a very fiscally tight ship and are secretive with MHR policies. Which as of late, many employees are leaving. I may be next.

22. AnonymousSeptember 1,2023 at 4:46AM UTC

    Final 'Positive' Update

    I want to personally thank everyone for their support and comments. It was the push of confidence and motivation I needed to stand strong.

    Promotion request was submitted on 8/28 and reviewed by our executive leadership and HRM. I pitched a compromise for an incentive program to obtain the desired band level based on my current and future performance and even went as far as saying that I would be open to withholding 2024 pay raise. I was pulled aside today by the CEO and her number 2. I honestly thought I was going to be reprimanded.

    What I didn't know was that two executives who were visiting the plant for a couple of days, our whole sourcing team had a professional dinner with them (8/30). I literally sat with both of them by chance. I had no idea what we were even going to be talk about. One of them mentioned something about real estate investing and unknown to them, I have been investing in many things to include real estate since I was 19. We did talk about work also... You would think we were best buddies by the end of the night. Well, that person I was talking with referenced me at their out brief to our CEO. This morning the CEO, my supervisor and our teams executive leadership advised me that my promotion was approved effective immediately.

    I was very grateful, but confused as to why the approval happened so fast and asked quizzingly. The CEO advised that within the out brief yesterday, it was simply stated "If this person leaves our business, it would be a great loss by our doing.". I was beside myself.

    The final outcome. I'll be doing a hybrid of my old role and new. There was extensive discussion that the company cannot afford for some of those tasks with in the analyst role to go un-actioned because it could be very impactful and leadership needs a person to take the lead when they need help (multiple teams to support).

    Current Level: Professional Band 1 (PB1)

    Role: Accounts Analyst

    Base salary: 85,000 (I'm using rounded numbers)

    Annual pay increase on average to date: ~3.25%

    Annual bonus on average to date: ~6.5% (up to 10% based on overall business performance)

    Promotion To: Lead Professional Band 1 (LPB1)

    New Role: Global Sourcing Lead

    15% base salary increase = $12,750 (my supervisor and I learned that from role to role promotions, this is the highest internal increase. We all collectively thought it was going to be 10%)

    New base salary: 97,750

    Annual anticipated pay increase: 3+%

    Annual anticipated bonus: ~6+%

    Long Term Incentive award (aka stock options) Up to 10% per year for three years.

    Again, thank you all.